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Lieberman's Long Defense of Alberto Gonzales

by: tparty

Mon Aug 27, 2007 at 08:48:14 AM EDT


The New York Times is reporting that Attorney General Alberto Gonzales will be stepping down later today:

Mr. Gonzales, who had rebuffed calls for his resignation, submitted his to President Bush by telephone on Friday, the official said. His decision was not immediately announced, the official added, until after the president invited him and his wife to lunch at his ranch near here.

Here's Sen. Lieberman, on voting to confirm Gonzales, February 3, 2005:

And there's a sentence in Judge Gonzales's opinion that has been quoted with great derision, laughter, as if it was over the edge. He wrote, "The new paradigm war on terrorism renders "quaint" some of the provisions [of the Geneva Conventions]."

I think Judge Gonzales was being restrained and diplomatic in using the word "quaint" to offer these benefits....

That is why I'm going to vote for Judge Gonzales and confirm his nomination, because nothing that I see in the record rises to a level high enough to overcome the presumption in favor of him as a nominee of the President. He has many outstanding qualities. I don't know if others have mentioned in this debate, but he has a certain independence of spirit, which I don't think has been much-commented on.

Sen Lieberman, in an email to a constituent on the Gonzales nomination, March 8, 2005:

I understand your concerns about Judge Gonzales' nomination, particularly about his involvement in formulating the legal positions underlying the Administration's policies in the war on terror.  After considering views like the ones you expressed, reviewing the record of Judge Gonzales' confirmation proceedings, meeting with Judge Gonzales, and thinking long and hard about the nomination, I decided to vote to confirm him, largely because I believe that, although Senators have a constitutional obligation to advise and consent on nominees and should not serve as a rubber stamp on the President's choices, they nonetheless should apply a broadly deferential standard when reviewing the President's choices for his Cabinet. When I applied that standard to Judge Gonzales, I concluded that, regardless of whether I would have chosen him for the position myself, he did not fall so far out of the mainstream or have other factors in his record to justify denying the President his choice for the post.

Sen. Lieberman, on joining with Senate Republicans to filibuster the non-binding resolution expressing no confidence in Gonzales, June 11, 2007:

My vote against going ahead with more debate on this no confidence resolution is not an expression of confidence in Attorney General Gonzales. It is an expression of opposition to spending any more time on a resolution that will accomplish nothing, instead of going ahead with the next item of business, which is energy legislation.

Sen. Lieberman to Walter Shapiro of Salon, on whether he thought Gonzales should remain as Attorney General, August 3, 2007:

You were the only Democrat to oppose a no-confidence against Attorney General Alberto Gonzales. This was a vote that had nothing to do with the war in Iraq. And you are both a former Connecticut attorney general and someone who remembers the politicization of the Justice Department under John Mitchell during Watergate.

Let me reconstruct that. It was earlier in the year. I think I thought that it was essentially a political vote. And the question on Gonzales was ultimately -- he serves at the pleasure of the president. And that there was nothing but political intent to the resolution. Forgive me, I should go back and look that up.

Rather than getting into that, what do you think of Gonzales now? Do you think he should stay as attorney general?

That's the question I don't answer. Look, I will say that his credibility has really been in doubt. He has handled his appearances here -- and I must apologize by saying --

I know that you're not on the Senate Judiciary Committee.

I actually haven't focused on his appearances, so I am relying now on the media as to what actually happened.

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" I am relying now on the media" (0.00 / 0)
and that media is... the Weekly World News and FOX.

what an idiot. But that goes without saying.

Maybe giuliani  will replace Gonzales.. haha. In the Nolopro perfect world, the replacement would be Bono or Henry Rollins.. but I don't see that happening somehow.

.Adding Another Dimension of Vituperation Toxicity to Blogging since 1999!.


The politics of unity (and torture) (0.00 / 0)


Here's a Lieberman-like quote (0.00 / 0)
Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell, who offered only muted support for the attorney general when some Republicans called for Gonzales' resignation, on Monday largely blamed his troubles on Democrats.

"It is my hope that whomever President Bush selects as the next attorney general, he or she is not subjected to the same poisonous partisanship that we've sadly grown accustomed to over the past eight months," McConnell, R-Ky., said in a statement.

Ah yes... remember the good old days before Democrats invented petty poisonous political partisan polarization - uh, when was that again -  nine months ago? Poor Alberto, a victim of partsian politics. Weep not, valiant prince!

"I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage country is impeccable and we should face up to it."

-Lawrence Summers


Cornyn , Susan Collins (0.00 / 0)
Describing Gonzales' resignation as a reaction to "basically unproven charges," GOP Sen. John Cornyn, of Texas called it "a sad day and sad commentary on the hyperpartisan atmosphere in Washington."

[Fake] Moderate Republican Sen. Susan Collins of Maine called it "a positive step forward."

Joe?


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"Nobody..." (0.00 / 0)
"wants to Alberto Gonzales more than I do."


Wait a second (4.00 / 1)
Lieberman, in sustaining the filibuster, says:
My vote against going ahead with more debate on this no confidence resolution is not an expression of confidence in Attorney General Gonzales. It is an expression of opposition to spending any more time on a resolution that will accomplish nothing, instead of going ahead with the next item of business, which is energy legislation.

Did we do anything on this at the time? That's one of the craziest things I've ever read.

–7.25 / –7.28

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They did the same thing (0.00 / 0)
w/ the GOP filibuster of the DoD authorization bill in July. Suddenly, it was Harry Reid who was "pulling stunts" and "filibustering."

Eric Alterman, from July:

"We really ought to be asking why this Democrat leadership won't allow Congress to move forward on serious policy debates," complains Sen. Jon Kyl (R-AZ). "Americans have been disappointed by a majority leadership that stages one show debate after another, while the only consistent legislative work getting done is the renaming of post offices."

That problem could easily be solved if Republicans allowed votes to take place and bills to be placed on the president's desk. And yet, almost universally, the mainstream media has written this story as if dictated by the same folks who come up with Republicans' talking points each morning.



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It's worth noting about congress (0.00 / 0)
That although the overall approval rate is low, the approval rate for republicans in congress has been the major drag on it with the democrats inability to counter the republican stalling tactics now dragging them down too.

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Don't Agree with Your Analysis (0.00 / 0)
It's not "the approval rate for republicans in congress," it's the approval rate of congress by republicans. And that's not what has dragged down the over-all approval of Congress. As Gallup puts it:

There are only minor (but not statistically meaningful) differences in the approval ratings Democrats (21%), Republicans (18%), and independents (17%) give to Congress. Typically, partisans view Congress much more positively when their party is in control of the institution, so the fact that Democrats' ratings are not materially better than Republicans' is notable.

The nine-point drop in Congress' job approval rating from last month to this month has come exclusively from Democrats and independents, with Democrats' ratings dropping 11 points (from 32% to 21%) and independents' ratings dropping 13 points (from 30% to 17%). Republicans' 18% approval rating is unchanged from last month. 

And Democratic failures in Congress are too numerous to mention, starting with FISA and Iraq, not just "failure to overcome republican stalling tactics."


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That's not a good graph for showing what I'd intended (0.00 / 0)

This is also by Gallup. I'd still contend that the decline in democrats fortunes is mainly due to the belief that things would be different in a democratic congress, and it hasn't been. Which is different than what I wrote above but this is largely due to the republicans dragging congress down, exactly since the loss of appetite for the Iraq War.


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I'd add (4.00 / 1)
... that a lot of people aren't so technically knowledgeable about the way our government works: when people read about the bad shit going on over at GSA, the Justice Dept, etc, many won't automatically chalk that up as a minus to Bush for the screwup, and a plus for the Democrats for oversight. Getting it out in public might be a precursor to fixing it, but none of that stuff makes people feel really great about their government, which is why the GOP was so secretive. We opened up a box of spiders, and now we're covered in spiders.

(That last line is one weird sentence -- but you get the idea I think).

–7.25 / –7.28

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