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Lieberman Smacks Harry Reid, Again

by: tparty

Sat Jun 16, 2007 at 09:48:44 AM EDT


Here's Joe on the Ray and Diane show from yesterday morning (mp3), in just his latest attack on Democrats - and Harry Reid in particular:

Q. There was a big flap yesterday about some comments made by Harry Reid concerning Gen. Petraeus, and the outgoing Peter Pace, saying they were incompetent, basically. Is that useful, and do you know that to be true or not... It's generally being reported in a lot of places.

LIEBERMAN: I don't know what Harry Reid is up to. I was very upset, even offended, by what he said about General Pace and General Petraeus. Look, you call General Pace incompetent? That's abs - this is a man who has devoted his entire life to the Marine corps, the service of our country, defense of our country.

Q. Why is he doing this? Why is Reid doing this?

LIEBERMAN: I have no idea. Then to say that Petraeus is out of touch? I mean, Harry Reid in Washington says David Petraeus, who's in Baghdad, away from his family, heroically trying to rally our forces and succeed over in Iraq... that he's out of touch? I mean, it's just - the danger here - my colleagues who have been opposed to the war have said "we're opposed to the war, but we support our troops." But when you start to attack the top two generals, you know, that's... that's wrong. I hope he apologizes, I just hope he misstated...

This isn't the first time Joe has gone after Reid by reinforcing a right-wing attack. Take this, from April:

“This week witnessed horrific terrorist attacks by Islamist extremists in Iraq, killing hundreds of innocent civilians and leading Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid to declare that the war is ‘lost.’...

The question now before us is whether we respond to these terrorist attacks by running away as Al Qaeda hopes – abandoning the future of Iraq, the Middle East, and ultimately our own security to the very same people responsible for this week’s atrocities – or whether we stand united to fight them."

And yet, from Harry, we continually only hear either silence or fawning descriptions like this, from March on the senate floor:

"In this chamber is Joe Lieberman and there isn't a senator I have more respect for than Joe Lieberman."

(Update:) Or, describing Lieberman as the "greatest gentleman in the Senate":

"As strongly as he is opposed to what the vast majority of Democrats want, he also has been a gentleman within the caucus," the Nevadan told reporters May 3. "We don't have a greater gentleman in the Senate than Joe Lieberman."

(Update 2:) Or, saying Joe "means well" when he calls for bombing Iran (h/t Scarce):

So, I know Joe feels strongly about that part of the world. I do too. But the invasion of [Iran] is only going to destabilize that part of the world more.... I know Joe means well, but I don’t agree with him.

I know Harry was a boxer, but he seems content to just sit back and take uppercut after uppercut from a man whose support he doesn't need in order to retain his position of Majority Leader, and whose moral authority he perplexingly continues to endorse in the process.

He just told you that you don't support the troops, that he's "offended" by you, that you're all but acting in league with Al Qaeda, and completely mocked you in the process.

And you reply by saying "there isn't a senator I have more respect for" than this man, lending weight to his idle and toothless threats to switch parties in the process.

It's well past time for some major figure in the Democratic party to kick this man's ass.

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They Are Not Uppercuts (4.00 / 1)
which are nice, clean blows. These are below the belt, and should disqualify " I could have been a contender" Joe from all future bouts.

I didn't say (4.00 / 2)
where they landed:



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The perception becomes, who is more "Senatorial" (4.00 / 1)
I don't particularly agree with the strategy in this case but I understand it. Reid is forcing Lieberman further and further out on the limb. What it does do is force the celebrity media, Rush, Hannity, Coulter, Snow, Blitzer, Drudge, Kurtz, Russert, Savage, Kristol et al to continually prop the limb up.

The further out the limb Lieberman and the other celebrity media puditheads go, the narrower their support becomes. The idea is to force them to appeal to only their core. The core of the core.

It's a marginalization ploy. And it's done with compliments. Joe knows what the game is but he can't keep himself from being drawn in. Yes, he probably is that stupid or is that cowardly to have to grasp at straws.


Thanks again, Ned! (4.00 / 1)
You were the better man, Ned, and you were right about every issue in the campaign.  Bill Clinton did you wrong, and we Democrats are sorry.

Just say that you will never say never again!  We need you!


Reid Disses Generals Pace and Petraeus (4.00 / 1)


Reid's highly provocative language vs Lieberman (4.00 / 2)
Video too at the link from earlier this week. I'm being sarcastic in the title, of course.

  REID: I believe our efforts should be diplomatic in nature. The Iraq Study Group said that. And General Petraeus has said the war in Iraq cannot be won militarily. It can only be won politically, economically, and diplomatically.

  So I would think rather than talking about military action against Iran, we should do what the Iraq Study Group said. Have a regional conference where we sit down and the president himself is personally involved with the leaders of Egypt, Jordan, Saudi Arabia, Syria, and yes, Iran. That’s where our efforts have to be.

  Right now, quite frankly, we’re so overextended — we don’t have the ability — we can send a few airplanes around the world, but as you know, our ground troops are overworked in Iraq.

  So, I know Joe feels strongly about that part of the world. I do too. But the invasion of [Iran] is only going to destabilize that part of the world more. We don’t have the resources now to be involved in the situation in Lebanon, and we should be. We have, because of the Iraq invasion, totally ignored the Palestinian-Israeli situation. And with Iran, we don’t have — the Iranians are thumbing their noses at us. They know we’re overextended. And the president is very stubborn. He is not willing to sit down and meet with their leaders.

  I know Joe means well, but I don’t agree with him.

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