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CT Senate Debating Plan B Vote NOW

by: Maura

Wed Apr 11, 2007 at 17:48:10 PM EDT


( - promoted by spazeboy)

Tune in to CT-N now, or watch online.  I just tuned in to see the end of Senator Harris' comments in favor of the bill.  Senator Kissel, ranking member, seems to be speaking against it.

I'll live-blog in the comments for those of you who can't watch for as long as I can.

UPDATE: Sen. Kissel does in fact seem to be speaking in favor of the compromise amendment, which allows Catholic hospitals to contract with a private provider who would administer the rape exam and also offer medically accurate information about Plan B and the full dose of Plan B for those who want it.

UPDATE 2:  The compromise amendment passed by voice vote of the full Senate.  The bill has now been sent to the Public Health committee.  Here are the key parts of the compromise:

b) The standard of care for each licensed health care facility that provides emergency treatment to a victim of sexual assault shall include promptly:

(1) Providing each victim of sexual assault with medically and factually accurate and objective information relating to emergency contraception;

(2) Informing such victim of sexual assault of the availability of emergency contraception, its use and efficacy; and

(3) Providing emergency contraception to such victim of sexual assault at the facility upon the request of such victim, except that a licensed health care facility shall not be required to provide emergency contraception to a victim of sexual assault who has been determined to be pregnant through the administration of a pregnancy test approved by the United States Food and Drug Administration.

(c) In order to comply with the standard of care requirements prescribed in subsection (b) of this section, a licensed health care facility may contract with one or more independent providers to: (1) Ensure compliance at the facility with the standard of care requirements prescribed in said subsection (b), and (2) conduct at the facility a forensic exam of the sexual assault victim in accordance with the state of Connecticut Technical Guidelines for Health Care Response to Victims of Sexual Assault, published by the Commission on the Standardization of the Collection of Evidence in Sexual Assault Investigations pursuant to section 19a-112a of the general statutes.

(d) No licensed health care facility that provides emergency treatment to a victim of sexual assault shall determine such facility's protocol for complying with the standard of care requirements prescribed in subsection (b) of this section on any basis other than a pregnancy test approved by the United States Food and Drug Administration.

The compromise allows Catholic hospitals to exempt their own employees from providing Plan B by contracting with an indpendent provider.  The compromise allows hospitals to administer a pregnancy test before providing the medication, but does not allow for the current protocol by Catholic hospitals - which involves administration of a highly unreliable urine test for ovulation - to be used.  The compromise is great news for everyone.

It's worth noting, however, that Senator DeLuca once again claimed that no one had been harmed by the current lack of a standard of care for all rape victims throughout the state.  After sitting through the entire human services committee hearing a few weeks ago, this infuriates me because DeLuca himself said at the hearing that he hadn't listened to any of the testimony thus far, nor did he stay to listen to the rest of the testimony that day which did clearly include evidence of women who were not offered the full dose of Plan B at many hospitals around Connecticut, religious and secular alike.  DeLuca clearly hasn't even bothered to read the testimony since then.  He should seriously consider keeping his trap shut on bills if he's not even going to bother to read or listen to testimony.

Maura :: CT Senate Debating Plan B Vote NOW
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Sen. Kissel (R) (very rough transcript) (0.00 / 0)
Picking up toward the end:

"My initial reaction is that it strikes me as abunantly fair and it would not run afoul of Constitutional protections for religion...we'll leave that to another day, this is going to go over to the public health committee and eventually will come back to the chambers...but it really does strike me as a good faith effort to come to a compromise...similar compromises have been reached in New York and New Jersey and typically we in the Northeast look at these issues in a similar way...I commend Senator Harris and his colleagues for keeping the lines of communication open..."


Sen. Rorabach (r) (rough transcript) (0.00 / 0)
....from my point of view, no one shoudl ever have to endure the indignity of a rape, but to furher endure the 9 month nightmare of carrying a child of your rapist is more than I can fathom...Catholic hospitals minister to the poorest of the poor...that is too often overshadowed as we are trying to resolve...I am heartened that we are close to a resolution.

every once in a blue moon Rorabach reminds me (0.00 / 0)
that not all the Republicans of today are complete idiots.

but I still didn't vote for him.

.Adding Another Dimension of Vituperation Toxicity to Blogging since 1999!.


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Sen Mary Ann Handley (D) (rough transcript) (0.00 / 0)
I rise to support this amendment...we women in the legislature have to look with pride at the men who have already spoken on this matter...

...as a woman I have thought about the possibility of rape and the possibility of this kind of thing happen...when I think of people for whom abortion is not a possibility as a matter of faith... it is absolutely critical that we do not put women in the situation that they are forced to bear a child because their deeply held beliefs say that they can not have an abortion...

...I also want to note that on the list of folks who say they support this amendment are both chairs of the Public Health Committee...as soon as we receive this bill, we will proceed...

...thank you for your understanding for what this means for women...


Sen Toni Harp (D) (0.00 / 0)
....pleased that two men took on this issue, and I want to thank them as well for having the foresight for pullling together people...to find some form of consensus...

...when I was in college decades ago in a social studies class taught by women...the whole issue of power and women...and what has dehumanized women throughout history is rape...the fact that many times during the debate of this issue we have forgotten teh sense of powerlessness, the sense of dread, and the ongoing feeling of powerlessness that affects not only the individual but the individual's family, that affects that person not only for the time of of the rape but for years and years after, and to then be faced with the decision of bearing the child of a rapist...and to not have a standard of compassion for these women...as we think about women having to address this in a way that men never have to...I want you to always remember the victim.

(Spoke in support)


Sen. DeLuca (R) (0.00 / 0)
I would agree with Senator Harper about the compassion and brutality...but I would emphasize that this is ongoing discussion... I am optimistic that [a compromise] is about to happen and I am thankful that we are at a point when people are beginning to talk...

...but I'd just like to make a point in this that througout the two hearings that were held, I heard  a lot of reasons why this should be brought forth...but I never heard of anyone being harmed by this

?????????????????????????????????

(Sorry my head exploded)

....I'm using this to illustrate the passion and the seriousness...but I think we should keep the rhetoric down...again, I want to emphasize that no agreements have been made at this point, discussions are ongoing, this is a positive step that will bring us to a solution.


Sen Williams (D) (0.00 / 0)
sorry about forgetting to close my bold tag in the comment above

(spoke in favor of the amendment)


Just did a voice vote on the amendment (0.00 / 0)
I didn't hear any "nays" on the amendment...moves now to Public Health committee

Sayers was opposed (4.00 / 1)
I've heard that Peggy Sayers, co-chair of the Public Health Committee, would not allow the bill to come before the committee in the past.  I suspect she could use a push.

Incidentally, she has voted with the Family Institute 83% of the time.

Info on the bill


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Voice vote? (0.00 / 0)
Lame. I want anti-rape-victim legislators on the record. If your 100% from the Family Institute is so important that you couldn't be bothered to vote, your constituents should hear about it.

–7.25 / –7.28 | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tw...

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Why the pregnancy test? (0.00 / 0)
I thought Plan B had no effect on an ongoing pregancy.  Is this test instant?

Also, I have to say that these acrobatics over compromise sounds like make-work to put language in that documents the struggle put up by interest groups, not for any practical reason.

Why the need to place the outsourcing language in the bill?  My business needs to follow laws too, and I contract with ADP, accountants, etc.  to keep in compliance, I don't know of any language that says everyone must pay their taxes, but some businesses can contract out their payroll, accounting, etc.

Harrumph.

Anyway, YEA for passing!  I'm on the Metro North right now couldn't wait to post some thanks to Maura for the coverage.


Judiciary committee opening discussion on marriage equality bill! (0.00 / 0)
Maura, will you be live blogging this one, too? Lawlor is commenting right now, basically along the lines of this may not be the most important legislation we address this session, but it's probably the vote we will all remember the most--history will judge us kind of stuff.

Kissel is voting no (0.00 / 0)
BUT, very very interestingly, he believes strongly that this bill should pass. He's voting no because he feels compelled to do what the majority of his constituents want, but he sounded really torn about the decision. I can absolutely respect the position he's in, and that's why it's SO important for all of us to keep in touch with our legislators about where we stand on things. Kissel also said he believes this will get out of committee today and will pass in the legislature to get before the governor. Good stuff!

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Cappiello and O'Neill are voting no (0.00 / 0)
Basically because of concerns that this whole gay marriage thing is just moving too fast. O'Neill keeps comparing this vote to the vote on electricity rate regulation. B/c so many legislators now wish they had waited and hadn't voted that through. Totally the same thing.

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And O'Neill is proposing an amendment (0.00 / 0)
that says if this bill fails to pass, we will have a state constitutional amendment that would automatically kick in... And that amendment would define marriage as between one man and one woman... Can you DO that via an amendment like this?

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