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Shorter Joe Lieberman: Our long national nightmare must go on!

by: Matt Browner Hamlin

Fri Dec 29, 2006 at 08:32:37 AM EST


CT Blogger said he'd leave it to other people to rip Joe's op-ed to shreds. Wish granted...

Today's Washington Post op-ed page:

Why We Need More Troops in Iraq

By Joseph Lieberman
Friday, December 29, 2006; Page A27

I've just spent 10 days traveling in the Middle East and speaking to leaders there, all of which has made one thing clearer to me than ever: While we are naturally focused on Iraq, a larger war is emerging. On one side are extremists and terrorists led and sponsored by Iran, on the other moderates and democrats supported by the United States. Iraq is the most deadly battlefield on which that conflict is being fought. How we end the struggle there will affect not only the region but the worldwide war against the extremists who attacked us on Sept. 11, 2001.

Lieberman thinks Iraq is the battlefield on which the US and Iran are engaged in a war for (or against, depends on which side you're talking about) moderation and democracy in the Middle East. Does Lieberman know that this bipole puts on the same side as Al Qaeda in the Iraqi civil war? Or does he simply not know that Iraq is in civil war between Sunni and Shia factions? His depiction of the Middle East as split between American and Iranian interests completely ignores the existence of Sunnis. It makes no sense and sounds more like a frame for the next war than anything connected to our problems in Iraq.

Because of the bravery of many Iraqi and coalition military personnel and the recent coming together of moderate political forces in Baghdad, the war is winnable. We and our Iraqi allies must do what is necessary to win it.
And Lieberman will not be out George-W-Bushed than anyone, not even George W. Bush.
Matt Browner Hamlin :: Shorter Joe Lieberman: Our long national nightmare must go on!
The American people are justifiably frustrated by the lack of progress, and the price paid by our heroic troops and their families has been heavy. But what is needed now, especially in Washington and Baghdad, is not despair but decisive action -- and soon.
Only one person is capable of decisive action: The Decider. What the hell are you Dirty Fucking Hippies thinking, that you have a say in when this war ends?

The most pressing problem we face in Iraq is not an absence of Iraqi political will or American diplomatic initiative, both of which are increasing and improving; it is a lack of basic security. As long as insurgents and death squads terrorize Baghdad, Iraq's nascent democratic institutions cannot be expected to function, much less win the trust of the people. The fear created by gang murders and mass abductions ensures that power will continue to flow to the very thugs and extremists who have the least interest in peace and reconciliation.
It's quite simple, the problem isn't anything that we've done wrong - any failures of planning, leadership, or coalition building. The problem is people die every day in Iraq. All we have to do is stop people from getting killed and everything will be peachy. I assume your children are up to the task.

This bloodshed, moreover, is not the inevitable product of ancient hatreds.
You heard me: no one could have seen this coming.

It is the predictable consequence of a failure to ensure basic security and, equally important, of a conscious strategy by al-Qaeda and Iran, which have systematically aimed to undermine Iraq's fragile political center. By ruthlessly attacking the Shiites in particular over the past three years, al-Qaeda has sought to provoke precisely the dynamic of reciprocal violence that threatens to consume the country.
My enemies enemy is my friend. Ignore the fact that Iran is a Shia state, backing Shia factions in Iraq and Al Qaeda is a Sunni group, backing Sunni militias in Iraq; we're the only enemy there, all Arabs love each other.

On this point, let there be no doubt: If Iraq descends into full-scale civil war, it will be a tremendous battlefield victory for al-Qaeda and Iran. Iraq is the central front in the global and regional war against Islamic extremism.
If Iran and Al Qaeda are drawn into propping up a full-scale civil war in Iraq, Iran and Al Qaeda win. That is, if there's a civil war in Iraq the forces fighting each other in that war win. [This might be the single stupidest justification for escalation in Iraq I've heard yet - people who want to kill each other win if they get to kill each other.]

In Baghdad and Ramadi, I found that it was the American colonels, even more than the generals, who were asking for more troops. In both places these soldiers showed a strong commitment to the cause of stopping the extremists. One colonel followed me out of the meeting with our military leaders in Ramadi and said with great emotion, "Sir, I regret that I did not have the chance to speak in the meeting, but I want you to know on behalf of the soldiers in my unit and myself that we believe in why we are fighting here and we want to finish this fight. We know we can win it."
Obviously in my ten day trip to the Middle East I found one anonymous colonel who perfectly echoes my talking points. Did you expect anything else?

More U.S. forces might not be a guarantee of success in this fight, but they are certainly its prerequisite. Just as the continuing carnage in Baghdad empowers extremists on all sides, establishing security there will open possibilities for compromise and cooperation on the Iraqi political front -- possibilities that simply do not exist today because of the fear gripping all sides.
...
The addition of more troops must be linked to a comprehensive new military, political and economic strategy that provides security for the population so that training of Iraqi troops and the development of a democratic government can move forward.
Mylittlepony Pink

You were waiting for the pony, here it is.

The daily scenes of death and destruction are heartbreaking and infuriating. But there is no better strategic and moral alternative for America than standing with the moderate Iraqis until the country is stable and they can take over their security. Rather than engaging in hand-wringing, carping or calls for withdrawal, we must summon the vision, will and courage to take the difficult and decisive steps needed for success and, yes, victory in Iraq. That will greatly advance the cause of moderation and freedom throughout the Middle East and protect our security at home.
There is no longer a democratic process to tie our success to; we can only work towards security and stability. We're in Iraq until Iraq's civil war is over. The only Serious option is sending tens of thousands of more of America's children to fight and die to bring us to a point where Iraqis don't die any more. Only a man with Vision has the will and courage to escalate the war at a point where even the most rabid supporters see victory unlikely. Once again I register by support to George W. Bush's (as of yet unstated) plan to infinity.

The writer is an Independent Democratic senator from Connecticut.
The writer is a Connecticut for Lieberman senator from Connecticut.

I feel sick.

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Do you want to lose your breakfast? (4.00 / 1)
It's worse, much worse.

Glenn Greenwald
First Joe provides a reason for his thoughts:


This bloodshed, moreover, is not the inevitable product of ancient hatreds. It is the predictable consequence of a failure to ensure basic security and, equally important, of a conscious strategy by al-Qaeda and Iran, which have systematically aimed to undermine Iraq's fragile political center.

Yes, you guessed it, Iran. But why does America hate Iran?

From Glenn:


When Sen. Lieberman warns of Iran's "terrorist agents," what he means, of course, are Hezbollah and Hamas, groups that are dedicated to fighting against Israel, not the U.S. But the tactic of those who want to conflate Israel's enemies with American enemies -- and thereby draw the U.S. into fighting those who are hostile to Israel -- is to ignore any such distinctions and to pretend that supporting anti-Israeli groups is evidence of support for the people who flew those planes into American buildings on 9/11.

That is a deceitful trick that was played with Saddam Hussein (the "support for terrorism" of which he was supposedly guilty was payments to the families of Palestinians carrying out attacks against Israel, a distinction which was never made, but was purposely obscured). Here Sen. Lieberman is invokving the same deceitful little game to try to underhandedly suggest that Iran is an Ally of Al Qaeda and a Supporter of the Terrorists, purposely blurring all distinctions in the hope of driving a deeper and more hostile wedge between the U.S. and Israel's worst enemy.

But we nonetheless must be very clear that all times that Sen. Lieberman's desire that the U.S. "recognize" that the war has already "expanded" to include Iran has nothing whatosever to do with the strategy by Israelis to convince the U.S. that Iran poses a threat not only to Israel but to the U.S., so that the U.S. will act against Israel's most formidible and threatening enemy. Those two matters are completely unconnected and to suggest otherwise is conclusive evidence of poisonous anti-semitism and bigotry of the worst sort.*

*snark alert.

Joe, a Warmongerer?


What rational person wouldn't think the U.S. should wage war against Iran? The only possible reason to suggest that Sen. Lieberman, in his war dances against Iran, might be driven by considerations other than American interests could only be the by-product of any ugly, bigoted mind. Such people must be -- and will be -- scorned with a venom reserved for few others. Just ask Jim Baker. Or Jimmy Carter. What Sen. Lieberman's Op-Ed painfully and conclusively demonstrates is that the people who brought us Iraq are nowhere near done with their wretched work.

God help us all.


Anyone who voted (4.00 / 7)
..for this schmuck ought to be embarrassed, or at least publicly ridiculed. Lieberman is a hopeless cause but the voters of Connecticut who sent this maniac back to Washington now have to bear a measure of the blame. Simply voting for the guy who looked "senatorial" casts the entire state in a very poor light.

You can almost hear Joe Lieberman Humming (4.00 / 1)
the National Anthem  while writing this. ISRAELS!!

Joe Lieberman is being ignored in Washington DC and across the country like never before. The American people see Lieberman today as what he is which is just another crazy religious fundementalist.


Amazing (4.00 / 5)
With all that's happened in the last 13 months, Joe Lieberman's position on Iraq has merely gone from "Our Troops Must Stay" to "We Must Increase Troop Levels."

But nobody wants to end the war more than he does.

What a lying piece of shit this man is.


So many thoughts at once (0.00 / 0)
I hope that this op-ed does in fact push Lieberman further out on the fringes.  The Congressional Democrats (House and Senate) need to come out strongly against troop escalation.  They need to distance themselves from Lieberman, Senate make-up be damned.  He's part of the cabal and they need to denounce his stance.  Lieberman's op-ed is a most likely a timely placed trial balloon on behalf of Bush-Cheney-McCain Iraq/Iran war strategy to "move forward".  I hope it backfires. 

my email (0.00 / 0)
i emailed the post asking why they continue to give LIEberman space instead of letting him sink "into the bloviating obscurity he so richly deserves." did my blood pressure good, but prolly not much else.
but i think we have to keep up the fight because of who we are and what we believe--not necessarily because we think it will do any good.
happy new year.

Why are you upset? (4.00 / 3)
After all, Nancy DiNardo told us that Iraq was "just one issue".  All the reporters wrote that Ned Lamont was a single-issue candidate.  What does it really matter if hundreds of young American men and women are being killed and wounded every month in Iraq?  The $400 billion spent on the war isn't really important, is it?  After all, Nancy DiNardo tells us that Iraq is just one issue, so what's $400 billion among friends?

Oh, and by the way, Joe's kid just graduated from high school, but no military action in Iraq for the younger Lieberman!! No surree!  It's a year of study in Israel.  Let someone else's kids get blown to bits in Iraq.  After all, it's just one issue...


What do you expect from a guy who got more deferrments from Vietnam than Dick Cheney (4.00 / 1)
and who won't sacrifice his kids to the US Army or Marines.

I hope Jim Webb punches out Lieberman someday.  It would make my day.


What is he up to? (0.00 / 0)
What constituency is Joe representing with this op-ed piece? Even Republicans want to get out of Iraq, especially before the 2008 elections.

It really makes you wonder what he's up to. It's so bizarre.

If so many lives weren't at stake, I'd say, yeah go ahead, Joe, and send more troops and when nothing improves over there, the whole nation will realize what a complete idiot you are. But the reality is lives ARE at stake, which makes the suggestion even more tragic.

I also wonder why it was published in the WaPo and not, say, the Hartford Courant, a paper his consituents might read. Maybe he doesn't want CT voters to know that he's back to his old neocon self again. Or maybe this was for an international audience. 

He's got to know that the idea of MORE troops appeals only to the lunatic fringe of America. So I can't figure out why he would want to take this position. Unless 1) he's completely lost his mind, 2) he's utterly stupid, or 3) he's paying back a debt to warmongering backers.

My guess is that it's number 3: he's paying back a debt to the warmongers who backed him in the last election.


Bush and bush's fundraisers, who backed Lieberman, are Lieberman's consitutency. (0.00 / 0)
you know the "Haves and have mores."

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Conservative agenda (4.00 / 1)
Who's Joe representing? Well, at this point, he's representing Bill Kristol, Dick Cheney, and the rest of the PNAC types. It's only the most hardcore neocons who think we can still "win" by escalating the war. Why do they believe this? Well, it goes to the central core of neocon foreign policy - imposing American will on the world through military power. This neocon worldview is tied in very strongly to Haliburton and its ilk of course and has always drawn from the theocons who buy into the "decider" idea of a strong moral flag-waving war president. And it appeals to Lieberman and his beltway AIPAC friends as well.

Why is Joe continuing to double down? To neocons, to go home now would be admitting the whole conservative agenda / worldview is wrong. Remeber, what got us so screwed isn't just the fact that the Bush administration was incompetent, but that the neocon agenda of pre-emptive militarism was dead wrong to begin with. George Lakoff and the Rockridge institute make the (somewhat awkward) argument that the "incompetence" argument actually reinforces the conservative militarism frame. You might get Bill Kristoll or Joe Lieberman to say that Bush and compatriots bungled the plan in Iraq, but you'll never get either one to say that the plan was doomed to fail from the beginning, because that would mean conservatism is a failed philosophy.

Joe continues to back the PNAC agenda just as he continued to use the "stay the course" phrase as long as he (and Bush) could. Remember that that phrase is a soundbyte targeted to evangelical conservatives  to appeal to their sense of moral righteousness. He favors escalation not because it's a tenable strategy for "winning" (we're not fighting a government any more, so winning in any form is impossible) but because to conservatives, any other course of action is giving in to the dirty hippies.

"I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage country is impeccable and we should face up to it."

-Lawrence Summers


[ Parent ]
Lieberman and the (other) neocons: trying to make it politically safe for Bush to escalate the war. (0.00 / 0)
Joe Lieberman is acting as part of a coordinated effort by neocons to keep us in the war and to resurrect themselves politically.

Exerpts of what I wrote in a "Progress for All" blog post.

The neocons' signature act was invading Iraq in order to elevate George Bush's domestic power - taking advantage of the fact that the American people rally around the president in time of war. This was Karl Rove's plan to craft Bush as a "war president," which would then put him in a position to proceed unchecked with the plundering of America on behalf of the wealthy elites of whom Bush is a part.

But, it was this signature act, itself, that exposed the neocons for what they really are - heartless and greedy profiteers, viewing the average humans as chattel.

So, what do they do now?

While Bush, himself, acts like he is considering a new course on Iraq, they send proxies out to argue to lay the public relations groundwork for doing the opposite of what the public wants.

Look at Joe Lieberman, who made a career of using his registration as a Democrat to carry the neocon Republican message farther than most registered Republicans could. After being re-elected by lying to his constituents, saying that he wants to end the war, he immediately began calling for an increase in the number of American troops in Iraq - for a deliberate, open-ended escalation of the war.

He would have been the most prominent neocon calling for an escalation of the war, were he not joining registered Republican Senator John McCain. McCain, for his part, is trying to win over the ultra-right of the American polity in order to win the Republican nomination for president. So he has ardently taking the leadership of pro-war jingoism in America.

Then there is the call for more troops being deployed to Iraq at a recent meeting between Secretary of Defense Robert Gates and about fifteen U.S. troops in Iraq. The fact that the administration made a point to make a news item of this raises the question of whether the entire event was a staged part of a propaganda campaign in favor of the same position argued by Lieberman, McCain and others.

The neocons sense what progressives sense.  We are building and growing just as they are being further discredited and abandoned by America.  They clearly see keeping America from leaving their war - their signature policy - as necessary to rescuing their domestic political prospects.

It says a lot about how closely Lieberman is tied in with the neocons that he sees the intimate need to prop up their power.

Plebicola


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Captain Soltz Disagrees (4.00 / 1)
Iraq War vet Jon Soltz reveals the lunacy of Joe's position at the Huffington Post:

http://www.huffingto...


LIEberman (0.00 / 0)
Could CT., pass a recall Bill  like CALIF., has on Governers. That could stop LIEberman in his tracks. Could be, maby.

[ Parent ]
Nope (0.00 / 0)
A Senator can only be removed from office by expulsion by his fellow Senators.

It's never happened yet.


[ Parent ]
Lieberman is part of a choir (3.50 / 2)
His op-ed is not unlike the one the issued in WSJ just as Murtha was getting momentum with Dems (people were already heading toward an exit). The op-ed is timed to the second. It is not for CT consumption (any more than the WSJ was).

Make no mistake, these are not spontaneous out bursts or revelations based on trips to the Iraq Green Zone. He could have (and maybe did) write that op-ed either before or without going to Iraq - Iraq is cover. Iran (he's pushing it as the next front, and then Syria) is in the wings.

There is no doubt that this is partly AIPAC motivated. The talking points are clear. Lieberman is not a solo act, he is acting in accord with an agenda. He needed to stay in the Senate to continue with his role - seems almost like an enactment of the Manchurian Candidate. But I'm convinced that there is NO OTHER issue that Joe is serving other than the "remaking of the Middle East." He is not representing CT, or the USA for that matter. His is a mission which cannot be expressed to the public except to conflate it with the Iraq "mission" (whatever that is, it really doesn't matter). The Iraq "mission" gives him cover for the reshaping of the ME. There is a deep racial aspect to all of this as well as some biblical pretexts. Arabs are the "new" Native Americans - to be pushed onto reservations.

In a nutshell, Iraq is really just a cover for the larger ME plan - "war on terror" is a convenient pretext because terrorism is a tactic that has been with humanity since the beginning of warfare and it aint going away until war itself is eliminated, and Joe isn't interested in a world of peace.

Joe has a mission and it's not simply about GWB's war in Iraq. William Kristol is a better barometer on what CT got for a senator.


 
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