Trust in Joe

Welcome back from NOLA (0.00 / 0)

You're up early, homeboy.

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by: mattw @ Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 04:35:23 AM CST

Or late... (0.00 / 0)

one or the other.
Tim

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by: Tim Tagaris @ Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 06:22:15 AM CST

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video's worth a million words (0.00 / 0)

CTBlogger was right.

Thanks and welcome.

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by: greenpeas @ Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 06:38:21 AM CST

stark (4.00 / 1)

It's hard to envision a more stark contrast in positions than Lieberman's faux anti-war stance in this video and his endorsement of sending more troops to Iraq yesterday. Really, this is a complete 180 on the most important issue in our country today and no one in the press is saying a word about it.

http://holdfastblog.com

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by: Matt Browner Hamlin @ Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 06:43:09 AM CST

"A Man of Pinciple" (0.00 / 0)

My ass! Ya know, I watched close to 3 hours of that conference they had at Yale that was broadcast on CSpan (thanks to whoever posted the reminder about it) and listening to Lanny Davis describe Lieberman as such a man of principle just made me want to wretch.

It was interesting, though, to gain insight into the thought process of the Lieberman camp, which consisted of the oft failed DLC methodology of campaigning on the left during the primary, and then moving to the middle for the general election. In essence, what Lanny described is how NOT to be a man of principle, tailoring your world view to whoever you seek to please at any given time. So, in Lanny's world, if your candidate needs to sound at least somewhat anti-war to appeal to the primary voters, and then somewhat pro-war to appeal to the wider audience in the general election, that's ok, because it's really all about winning the election.

I guess if you have no principles yourself, it's hard to recognize when your friends also have none.

The one thing he was right about was that Ned didn't do an effective enough job of getting his message to the unaffiliated voters. Lieberman was therefore able to successfully define himself as the guy in the middle who appeals to "all the people" while Ned was the guy way off to the left.

But there was no acknowledgment whatsoever that the whole image that Lieberman crafted was a facade. And no comprehension or admission of the fact that the Democratic party literally abandoned their own candidate and may have cost his campaign the election by asking Lamont to lay off Lieberman for a while so they could persuade him to drop out after the primary. Literally everyone on at least one of the 2 panels agreed that the 2 weeks of silence that the Lamont campaign gave to the party cost him the election. Polling backed that up, indicating that most voters had made their minds up very early in the race.

If anyone wants to see the conference and can't get it on CSpan, I've got the whole thing recorded on the puter.

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by: CTPatriot @ Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 08:03:52 AM CST

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They didn't mention the use of money to get votes, either, did they? (4.00 / 1)

I guess that would have been too blunt and direct, and there were impressionable students in the audience.

I saw a lot of the first part yesterday afternoon - had to tear myself away to go do some work -- and I'm hoping to see it again.  I want to brand into my consciousness and really process what is in that show.

It may not be the best source of facts about the campaign, but it's fascinating opportunity to study the characters (and character - singular) involved in the campaigns.  I look at it as input on how the different people see things and operate.  Lanny Davis is a case study in and of himself.  The media portion of the show was also instructive -- seeing & hearing the people behind the bylines "explained a lot".

(Thanks, Tessa, for your original heads up on this program.)

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by: greenpeas @ Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 09:07:44 AM CST

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Joe's words: More Troops (4.00 / 1)

Today's Courant

BAGHDAD, Iraq -- Backed by Sen. Joe Lieberman, Sen. John McCain took his controversial proposal for curbing Iraq's sectarian violence to Baghdad on Thursday, calling for an additional 15,000 to 30,000 U.S. troops and joining a congressional delegation in telling Iraq's prime minister he must break his close ties with a radical Shiite cleric.

Lieberman, D-Conn., and Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said they agreed with the Arizona Republican's call for a troop increase.

"We need more, not less, U.S. troops here," Lieberman said.

http://holdfastblog.com

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by: Matt Browner Hamlin @ Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 07:03:33 AM CST

You gave me an idea (0.00 / 0)

Tim, I've just started something I call "Lieberman Watch" on my blog, where I welcome people to submit examples like yours where Joe has gone back on his campaign promises.  I'm hoping this may be useful to get the message to the MSM that they're not doing anything to hold Lieberman accountable. 

With enough concrete examples of Joe's hypocrisy posted online, we can influence the public dialogue and expose him for what we all know he is; and hopefully diminish the amount of damage he's capable of causing. 

Connecticut Bob

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by: Bob Adams @ Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 08:17:27 AM CST

'Say Anything' Joe? (0.00 / 0)

Say it ain't so, Joe. Say it ain't so...

Meanwhile this fucktard put out ads like this one during the campaign.

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by: Scarce @ Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 08:33:30 AM CST

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LOL - "fucktard" (0.00 / 0)

Nice. I like it.

"I think the economic logic behind dumping a load of toxic waste in the lowest wage country is impeccable and we should face up to it."

-Lawrence Summers

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by: joesaho @ Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 08:47:12 AM CST

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Perfect use of the word! (0.00 / 0)

I agree; I can't wait to use "fucktard" in an article headline.  Just to see it reproduced in the Leftyblogs and CTweblogs lists will be a hoot!

Connecticut Bob

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by: Bob Adams @ Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 09:20:00 AM CST

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You may want a seperate category (0.00 / 0)

..for the Rovian tactics used during the campaign by Lieberman, basically using one's own negatives (e.g missed votes, siding w Republicans, moneybags, etc) against your opponent in order to deflect criticism.

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by: Scarce @ Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 09:32:41 AM CST

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projection (0.00 / 0)

Senator Lieberman's Problem: Projection

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by: spazeboy @ Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 10:10:34 AM CST

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excellent (0.00 / 0)

This is gonna be fun. CTBob's on the case!

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by: greenpeas @ Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 09:08:50 AM CST

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Welcome back to the jungle (0.00 / 0)

Exposing Lieberman should be too easy seeing that we all have hours upon hours of video on him. If I wasn't so busy changing diapers and annoying Danbury Mayor Mark Boughton's, I'd be back on the frontlines with you guys.
I'll be back in DINOBoy's case once CTLauryn learns how to sleep throughout the night without screaming for a bottle.

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by: ctblogger @ Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 09:31:34 AM CST

We will welcome you back... (0.00 / 0)

... in about two years!

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by: Gabe @ Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 13:02:20 PM CST

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Welcome Back Tim (0.00 / 0)

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by: CGG @ Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 10:00:01 AM CST

Hope you stay awhile. (0.00 / 0)

Welcome back, Tim. Hope to see more diaries from you.

The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice. --Martin Luther King, Jr.

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by: connecticutyankee @ Fri Dec 15, 2006 at 15:34:03 PM CST

Joe puts the LIE in his name. (0.00 / 0)

Can't stand this guy. He is the epitome of a slick politician who will say anything his constituents want to hear, and then once he's back in office does the complete opposite. When is he going to do a Zell Miller and actually leave the party?

The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice. --Martin Luther King, Jr.

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by: connecticutyankee @ Sat Dec 16, 2006 at 09:01:01 AM CST