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Saving 31,000 Jobs - Joe Lieberman's Big Lie

by: Neal Fink

Sat Jul 08, 2006 at 12:17:19 PM EDT

When asked of his accomplishments for the State of Connnecticut, Joe Lieberman's main talking point regards the Groton Sub Base. He takes credit for saving 31,000 jobs, and in typical political speak, moves on without giving any details. Well, surprise surprise, Joe's not exactly being honest here.

Neal Fink :: Saving 31,000 Jobs - Joe Lieberman's Big Lie

How Many Jobs?

The number routinely used by Joe and Republican Congressman Rob Simmons of the 2nd District, where the base is located is 31,000 jobs. However, this number is a fiction. The Base Realignment and Closure Commission (BRAC) would have shut down the US Naval Base in Groton, where 8,500 soldiers are stationed. It also reduced contracts for Electric Boat (EB), a sub manufacturer. At the time, EB employed 11,800, of which about 20% would have been impacted. However, these cuts may have taken place over a period as long as 18 years.

So, let's do the math. 8,500 + (11,800 * 20%) = 10,860. That's only about 1/3 of 31,000. So where did the bigger number come from? According to an Electric Boat Press Release, the 31,000 number is an economic estimate of total job loss impact for Connecticut AND Rhode Island. Of the 2,360 layoffs planned for EB, 1/4 of these were to be in Rhode Island. So, Joe is taking credit for saving jobs in Connecticut that never even existed because they are in Rhode Island.

These economic impact estimates are always questionable at best because they tend to assume the worst case scenaior, and furtehr assume that nothing else will come to fill the void. For example, would a 7-11 near the sub base be forced to close too, thus resulting in more job loss? Well, that assumes they get all of their business from the Naval officers, and that no other company might re-develop the area. This type of logic points to a major failure of Lieberman, Simmons, and our Rebublican Governor - the failure to create new jobs for CT. It's not enough to save the remnants of our state's dying military industry. We must re-tool and create jobs in growth industries.

Earlier this week I spoke with an HR consultant doing work for EB, who asked not to be identified. Despite all of Joe's "hard work" to save these jobs, it seems that the future of EB is actually more grim than it was before he "saved the jobs." In January of this year, EB laid off 222 employees (8% of the employees they were planning to eliminate in CT before our hero stepped in to save the day.) And, according to my source, EB is now preparing to eliminate 6-8,000 more CT jobs over the next few years.

Who Deserves Credit?

Lieberman makes it seem as if it was a solo effort, that HE ALONE saved these jobs. These things are rarely the effort of one person alone. But Joe is so in love with himself and the words "I" and "Me" that he seems unable to recognize that others were indeed involved. For example, Congressman Rob Simmons seems to want the credit for himself. The House Bill that included contracts for Electric Boat, the sub manufacturer in Groton, passed 398 to 19. Sure, Simmons did indeed work to get Groton included, but given the vote, it's not as if anyone had to make a major fight or big bi-partisan comprimise to get it passed.

A quick search did not find any example of Lieberman or Simmons giving credit to the other. Plus, there were tons of local officials and community leaders working tirelessly to save the local Naval Base and jobs at EB. Does Joe not value all of the hard work that took place in the community? What about the unions that he claims to love so much? They certainly worked pretty hard and spent a fortune on lobbying to make this happen. Wait, now it's starting to make sense. Let's connect the dots here. Lobbyist money...save union jobs...Joe Lieberman. Yes, now it all makes sense.

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Nice Job! (4.00 / 2)
Investigative blogging at its best.

Hey, somebody's got to do it (0.00 / 0)
And except for maybe Paul Bass who else out there is going to take the time to delve into Joe's outright lies, half-truths, and not so clever distortions? These intrepid reporters have deadlines, don't you know?

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cross post (0.00 / 0)
Are you planning on crossposting anywhere nationally?

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First rate (0.00 / 0)
I'm glad someone stepped up to the plate to expose it.

Things are much tougher (4.00 / 1)
True, Electric Boat and the Base are still open, but, isn't that what our elected officials are paid to do, try to retain what is in place, So, Lieberman, Simmons, et al, don't beat your chest telling everyone what you did. THIS IS YOUR JOB. As far as the future is concerned at Electric Boat is concerned, things are indeed very grim. Thers will be layoffs this coming Monday (July 10th) over 300 MTC members, not sure of how many management or MDA folks being laid off. Things are much more in doubt now than they were 6 years ago (when Joe L. just ran) Simmons and Lieberman are both members of the Armed Services Committee too. Guess that means it doesn't make that much difference if you belong to the committee. There was a lot more work around when Sam Gejdenson was there. And he wasn't on it. (I work at Electric Boat)

Great post! (4.00 / 1)
Have you thought about putting it in a letter to the editor? The Norwich Bulletin had an obnoxious letter to the editor today saying basically that Ned was too dumb and inexperienced to understand what a great job Lieberman did. I would love to see somebody rebut that one.

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Great job (4.00 / 1)
Hope this gets picked up in the print media.  It's critical.  Thanks, Neal!

Do Sen. Lieberman and Rep. Simmons think (4.00 / 1)
building Nuclear Submarines is the growth industry the people of the Groton/New London area should be dependent on for their future?

If these 2 clowns had an ounce of Integrity they would have gotten some money out of the defense budget to transform this area of our state to an industry with a future.

Exactly! (0.00 / 0)
Thanks for the much needed exposure of the distortions concocted by LIEberman over this one issue.  I'm glad that Lieberman JOINED Senator Dodd and the OTHER politicians and the  PEOPLE of CONNECTICUT with the good sense to protest the potential loss of ANY jobs. (Let alone "31,000" jobs - until next week? Maybe 50,000? 75,000 +?).  In fact, I would have been dismayed had he not finally expressed concern.  That is what he was ELECTED to do, (among other things).  It would have been ideal had he intervened at an earlier time, but I know he's concerned about...ummm... video game violence? Breakfast dates with GW?  Coffee break at the diner...

I didn't think Joe Lieberman did what he did to "save" any Groton (Electric Boat) jobs so that I'd vote for him again.  I thought he did it because he thought it was the right thing to do, let alone a fundamental responsibility, the bare minimum of his elected position as a United States Senator.

Lieberman's distortions are so transparent it's embarrassing.  An angry child with no respect nor regard for the people who have voted for him in the past.  The choice is very clear.

Remember what happened first... (0.00 / 0)
I wish someone would point out that the only thing Lieberman saved was his own butt. The only reason the Groton base got put on the BRAC closing list in the first place is because Joe fell asleep at the switch. If he had been paying attention,  and was as connected as he claims he is, he could have prevented it being there in the first place. He was as surprised as anyone when the closings list was released. That's an embarrassment. But let's be honest. Joe Lieberman has always cared about only one thing, and that's Joe Lieberman...

My own paranoid conspiracy theory (4.00 / 1)
is that there was never any intention of closing the sub base, that this was all a ruse to let Rob Simmons keep his tenuous hold on his seat by appearing to "save" the base.

Not a theory (0.00 / 0)
Just common sense.

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Great research (0.00 / 0)
Kind of reminds me of Bill Clinton's 100,000 new police officers which turned out to be something like 3,000.  Keep up the good work. 

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