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Quinnipiac: Health reform numbers take a tumble

by: Scarce

Tue Dec 22, 2009 at 19:23:09 PM EST


First, the numbers that may or may not surprise:

As the Senate prepares to vote on health care reform, American voters "mostly disapprove" of the plan 53 - 36 percent and disapprove 56 - 38 percent of President Barack Obama's handling of the health care issue, according to a Quinnipiac University poll released today.

This is a national poll, not just Connecticut (from December 15 - 20, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,616 registered voters nationwide with a margin of error of +/- 2.4 percentage points) but you can probably safely assume the numbers opposed are slightly better in Connecticut.

That said, the numbers below could even be higher and ought to make progressives bang their head against the wall in frustration:

While voters oppose the health care plan, they back two options cut from the Senate bill, supporting 56 - 38 percent giving people the option of coverage by a government health insurance plan and backing 64 - 30 percent allowing younger people to buy into Medicare.

Huh? What's this? Even Republicans support such a proposal (50-44)? Appears so.

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But he did his best... (4.00 / 2)
Per the Wash Post...

President Obama rejected in an interview Tuesday the criticism that he has compromised too much in order to secure health-care reform legislation, challenging his critics to identify any "gap" between what he campaigned on last year and what Congress is on the verge of passing.

"Nowhere has there been a bigger gap between the perceptions of compromise and the realities of compromise than in the health-care bill," Obama said in an Oval Office interview with The Washington Post about his legislative record this year. "Every single criteria for reform I put forward is in this bill."

I have one word for Barack.

BULLSHIT

The question is not what you are, we already determined that, we are now negotiating price.
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This stuff is infuriating. (0.00 / 0)
They are cutting everything good out and making it into corporate welfare in the final Senate version.

As it goes into into conference we will get a real idea on where Obama stands on this because now 3 groups will have an equal say at the table:

1. The Senate
2. The House
3. The Obama Administration

Whatever comes out of there will be what the White House wants because because there is stuff to pick and choose from in the bills from both sides of Congress.

This is make or break time for Obama.



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Same goes for the Progressive Caucus. (0.00 / 0)
Either they stand up for what they said they would or they aren't worth spitting on as we walk by.


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You have to wonder sometimes (0.00 / 0)
... what these dudes are being told by their staff. Like, maybe Rahm is saying "Sir, these so-called-progressives are just angry that the bill doesn't include single-payer. Don't worry about it." Which leads to nonsense like that interview quote.

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It's just too easy ... (0.00 / 0)
... to find the "gaps" between what he campaigned on what he promised:

Obama said that government shouldn't mandate coverage (like Hillary's plan would have), but this plan does.

He said we shouldn't tax health insurance (like John McCain wanted to), but this plan does.

He said we should be able to negotiate lower drug prices, but we can't.

He said we should have a public plan to compete against private insurers, but we don't.


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From dKos: (4.00 / 2)
Never forget the Planks of Democratic National Platform
It isn't just Obama. It is the entire Democratic party walking away from their entire platform with Obama and the Senate leading the way to nowhere.


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But, But (0.00 / 0)
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Chris Dodd says it's "a great day for America"

Retch...
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"If those in charge of our society...can dominate our ideas, they will be secure in their power. They will not need soldiers patrolling the streets. We will control ourselves." ~~Howard Zinn


THe Health Bill (0.00 / 0)
 It is evident from more then a casual observation that the White House was ambivelent about the public option and the medicare buyin.I still believe that the public option is possible  by creating one in the conference committee thru the new setup where the government will oversee a menu of plans.....with an opt in provision.If that doesnt work then congress should  work on the medicare buyin asap.

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"If those in charge of our society...can dominate our ideas, they will be secure in their power. They will not need soldiers patrolling the streets. We will control ourselves." ~~Howard Zinn

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