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The Clinton Myth - The Dem Primary is Over

by: Connecticut Man1

Sat Mar 22, 2008 at 01:03:36 AM EDT


It has been for a while now...

The Politico hits the reality nail on the head with this:

Story behind the story: The Clinton myth

One big fact has largely been lost in the recent coverage of the Democratic presidential race: Hillary Rodham Clinton has virtually no chance of winning.

Her own campaign acknowledges there is no way that she will finish ahead in pledged delegates. That means the only way she wins is if Democratic superdelegates are ready to risk a backlash of historic proportions from the party's most reliable constituency.

Unless Clinton is able to at least win the primary popular vote - which also would take nothing less than an electoral miracle - and use that achievement to pressure superdelegates, she has only one scenario for victory. An African-American opponent and his backers would be told that, even though he won the contest with voters, the prize is going to someone else.

People who think that scenario is even remotely likely are living on another planet.

Clinton's likely reaction to being told this truth... Below the fold!
Connecticut Man1 :: The Clinton Myth - The Dem Primary is Over
Well?  A picture is worth a thousand words:


Even the more ardent Hillary Clinton supporters are being forced to face this reality:

Pretty Much

As Jim Vandehei and Mike Allen argue in this piece in The Politico, the press has been largely complicit in maintaining the fiction that the Democratic nomination race is not for all intents and purposes over. The obstacles in the way of Hillary Clinton are virtually insurmountable. And her now-sizable deficit among pledged voters is only one of them. Everyone in the press, probably including us, should be much more candid about that.
--Josh Marshall

No doubt about it. I will give Marshall props for showing a more reasonable amount of reality than the media ever did over the last month as he has slowly moved closer to this truth, but never quite outright stated it. So when you hear one of the most incompetent Dem political campaign  gurus ever say stuff like this concerning Bill Richardson's endorsement of Obama:
"The time that he could have been effective has long since passed," he continued, "I don't think it is a significant endorsement in this environment."
-Democratic campaign dingleberry Mark Penn

Mark Penn may have inadvertently got something half-right for a change! Remember that there truly is no longer any significant endorsement in this environment because...

The Democratic primary is already over.

And that is pretty much a fact...

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Bill Clinton has struck again... (4.00 / 1)

 Speaking to an audience at a V.F.W. hall in North Carolina, Bill Clinton praised the patriotism and service of both John McCain and Hillary. He then immediately went on to say,(paraphrase), that he felt it would be nice to have a general election between two candidates who love this country and have this county's interest at heart. Where the electorate could simply decide who is right on the issues, instead of the stuff that always creeps into our politics.

 The unmistakable inference being that while McCain and Hillary are patriots and love our country; Barack Obama isn't and doesn't. The Clinton bullshit machine is already spinning that isn't what Clinton meant. But they, like Bill Clinton, insult our intelligence on a regular basis...and one more thing Mr. Clinton; you have supplied more than your share, over your career, of the "other stuff" that you say infects our politics.

 Any respect I once had for Bill Clinton has long since evaporated.  
 

But let justice roll down like waters...Amos 5:24a


I have always thought (4.00 / 1)
of Clinton in the same way I would think of a "tolerable" conservative. You know? Fiscally responsible but at least some socially liberal views on a few big issues. But I have never thought of him as a liberal in any way. Right now I would classify Hagel in that way because he is right on the biggest issue of the day, Iraq. But that does not mean I would ever vote for him unless, say, he were the only choice in a campaign against 100 years of war McCain. I would be even less inclined to vote for a Clinton for the reason that he (then) or she (now) is supposed to represent the left.

That would be just counterproductive to everything I believe in and am trying to do, IMHO.


Drinking Liberally in New Milford
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[ Parent ]
Bill Clinton's offensive patriotism remarks (4.00 / 1)

It'd be a great thing if we had an election where you had two people who love this country, who were devoted to the interest of the country and people could actually ask themselves who is right on these issues instead of all this other stuff which always seems to intrude on our politics.



The sad part (4.00 / 1)
is that he is tarnishing his legacy and all the positive things he has done by shilling this kind of stuff for his wife's campaign.

It's sad to see, as he becomes more irrelevant every day.  

The question is not what you are, we already determined that, we are now negotiating price.
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[ Parent ]
He tarnished his legacy with Lewinsky's blue dress. (4.00 / 1)
If Bill had more self-control then, Al Gore would have more decisively won the 2000 presidential election, instead of trying to run away from that scandal into the arms of Lieberman. And we would be coming out of eight sixteen years of a Democratic presidency, instead of eight years of GWB.

Actions have consequences.

The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice. --Martin Luther King, Jr.


[ Parent ]
The Obama myth: that he has all he needs to win the election (4.00 / 1)
The last time I looked, Obama did not have the votes--at any level--to win the nomination. Neither does Clinton.

So, it is increasingly evident, that BOTH CAMPAIGNS are seeking to either come out ahead in the popular vote once ALL of the primaries are over, as well as seeking to "flip" super delegates to increase their count.

The elephant in the room is NOT  a "black man for President", it is NOT, "the first woman to break the gender ceiling for President" it is still, as it has always been: Michigan and Florida.

Period.


Michigan and Florida (4.00 / 1)
I don't think having Michigan and Florida re-votes would necessarily solve the issue conclusively. I think Obama can take Michigan--even with him not on the ballot, Hillary only got 55% of the vote. Michigan not only has a heavy African-American constituency in the Detroit area but also the largest concentration of Arab-Americans in the country--both groups will side with Obama and I think the white vote will go the same way in Michigan as it did in Wisconsin. I think Obama could easily take Michigan.

As for Florida, it's high concentration of retirees, Jews, and Hispanics could make it easy for Hillary--but Richardson's endorsement of Obama could lower Hillary's support among the Hispanic population. I still think she can take Florida--but not by the large margin as she did before when Obama did not even campaign in the state.

So if Hillary takes Florida and Obama takes Michigan, I think we could be back where we started.  

"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."--James Madison


[ Parent ]
BUT Not Having Re-Votes (4.00 / 1)
is worse than being back where we started.  Hillary claims both states and uses them to win - or both states are disallowed - pissing off the voters there.  Ugly either way.

[ Parent ]
False (4.00 / 1)
Almost nothing in your post is in fact true.

--Of the two, Obama has a clear path to the now 2025 delegates now needed. He would however need Clinton to drop-out after she was mathematically eliminated.

--Only the Clinton campaign has ever mentioned the popular vote as a true determinant. The Obama campaign has kept on the delegate count, for obvious reasons, not least of which is that that it is what truly matters. (FWIW, Obama is up over 700,000 now on states whose votes count and if caucus states are added on best estimates that number goes up to over 900,000.)

--Michigan and Florida will almost certainly not have a revote at this time.


[ Parent ]
Then it's really too bad (4.00 / 1)
Florida and Michigan made the decisions they made.  Now they (and we) have to live with the decisions they made.  Actions have ramifications.  Taking responsibility for your actions is a bitch. But there it is.

[ Parent ]
Obama Girl has the answer! (4.00 / 1)
She's back -- and making more sense than those talking heads on TV.

Here's her latest video ... hilarious!


 
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