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Krugman Endorses Hillary?

by: BranfordBoy

Mon Feb 04, 2008 at 12:06:02 PM EST


The New York Times has rule, as I understand it, that prevent its op-ed columnists from endorsing any political candidate. In his column today, Krugman skates as close to an out and out endorsement as those rules will allow.

If Mrs. Clinton gets the Democratic nomination, there is some chance -- nobody knows how big -- that we'll get universal health care in the next administration. If Mr. Obama gets the nomination, it just won't happen.

Pretty strong language, right?. Except that it's  hedged as existing in the realm of pure speculation -- "nobody knows" he is careful to say. This is a rhetorical device he uses elsewhere in slamming Obama in the service of Clinton:

Another theory is that Obama, once nominated, would receive the usual treatment: conservative pundits who've had nice things to say about him will start contrasting his callowness with the wonderful manliness of McCain, the swiftboaters will spread rumors about his past, etc.. Up to now it seems obvious to me that press coverage has been far more friendly to Obama than to Clinton; once he becomes the enemy, how well will his numbers stand up?

I don't know which of these theories is right. But neither does anyone else.

In other words, he's just blowing it out his erudite ass. And it's in the same logical ballpark as statements like, "I don't know if Saddam has WMD. But neither does anyone else. So maybe we shouldn't take any chances."

And speaking of Iraq, I might also point out that Krugman, or someone equally smart and clever (assuming that such a person exists), could write a parallel column that would conclude . . .

If Mr. Obama gets the Democratic nomination, there is some chance -- nobody knows how big -- that we'll get out of Iraq in the next administration. If Mrs. Clinton gets the nomination, it just won't happen.

. . . and sound just as plausible. So it's simply a matter of which is your hot button issue. For Krugman, it's healthcare, as he is not shy to admit.

I believe that universal health care has to be THE central item in a progressive agenda

Fair enough, but I am just cynical enough to believe that Krugman may be backing Clinton for more reasons than he cares to let on and using healthcare as a convenient peg on which to ahng his advocacy. The fact that he goes out of his way to let us know that he was dissed by the Clinton administration, only makes me more suspicious.

Does that mean that should we be foolish enough to nominate Obama, Krugman will throw up his hands in despair and vote for McCain? I don't think so. He'll almost certainly cut Obama the slack he has cut him in the past. . .

The Obama plan is still vastly preferable to plans that rely on tax credits and the magic of the marketplace.

. . . and use the bully pulpit of his column to influence what he seems to admit is policy that could well evolve.

Now, some might argue that none of this matters, because the legislation presidents actually manage to get enacted often bears little resemblance to their campaign proposals. And there is, indeed, no guarantee that Mrs. Clinton would, if elected, be able to pass anything like her current health care plan.

If Obama prevails, I would expect Krugman to use his considerable gifts of rational persuasion to advocate for the election of President Obama.

As someone who feels Barack Obama is a far preferable candidate to take to the polls in November and given Krugman's outsize influence on progressives like me, I fear the effect of the columns and blog posts he has written in the recent past on undecided liberals heading to the polls on Tuesday.

I hope we can have the perspective to see them for what I believe them to be -- an endorsement of a Clinton candidacy and, to that extent, no more meaningful than endorsements by, say, David Dinkins, or some Hollywood star. When the last primary ballot is cast and the dust settles at the Democratic Convention, all these endorsements will be forgotten and we will unite behind the Dem candidate.

In the meantime, I am voting for Barack Obama.

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Krugman echoes my doubts about Obama (0.00 / 0)
I see Obama as 1992 Bill Clinton-lite.

I'll most likely hold my nose and vote for Obama Tuesday because the Clinton strangelhold over the Dem Party needs to be broken, but I still have serious doubts about Obama.  


Larkspur, I have doubts too... (4.00 / 1)
But I have parked them in favor of hope.

The upside to Obama is enormous. Let's pray he wins, then bust our asses to help him deliver.


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I fear that we will be working against Obama more than with him (0.00 / 0)
to get progressive policies passed, just like Progressives had with Bill Clinton.

[ Parent ]
when I look at what I want (4.00 / 1)
and I look at the two choices I have left. I sigh.

The truth is that both suck.

If Joe Biden were still in the running, then there would be at least on person to the right of these two.

That said I will state that both of these choices are better than anything the other side can bring up. But being better than dog shit isn't saying all that much.

As a progressive neither of these candidates excites me. As sole adult board member of my daughter non-profit GreenLightKids I don't see either of these two as having any plan worth crap for the future of America energy-wise. On the economy neither has shown an understanding of what needs to be done on taxes and redeveloping the middle class. Neither has shown a decent proposal for energy independence an R&D investment into new technology. Neither has shown a plan for re-generation of the middle class.

I have seen one grasp GOP frames, and the other use the politics of destruction. I have seen both use colour as an issue.

I find myself disgusted that I am again left with no one to champion for. I find myself sad, almost clinically depressed. I find myself rooting for Huck to take the South tomorrow so McCain has to take him on as VP thus ensuring that no matter who we put up, we win, but at the same time I realize that with these two a win isn't all that great, it's just more of the same... maybe some minor changes, but nothing dramatic.

I sigh.

A lot.

Yesterday I had 13 for dinner. At one point it came to politics and they all looked at me and

I sighed.

I looked down at my plate, at the dinner that I cooked (chicken provoncal on egg noodles). I looked up into their eyes and saw them all awaiting what the old "political pro" had to say. I looked down again, and sighed.

"2004." was all I said. These people, dems and republicans as well an a few non-declared looked at me and shook their heads knowingly. They understood. They had seen me with Dean. They knew how I felt when I was delivered Kerry. They understood. We moved on to other topics (we weren't allowed to discuss the game since all of the people at dinner were die-hard Pats fans [three were from Mass]).

So, I sigh.

The question is not what you are, we already determined that, we are now negotiating price.
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Sounds like a great party (0.00 / 0)
"Doom, meet Gloom."

I went to a party on Sunday too. Lots of Giants fans, and a couple of Patriots fans. The Giants fans had a lot more fun.

There were many Obama supporters, too, who really really fired up about this year's election. They were inspired, thrilled to be voting FOR someone for a change.  

I didn't hear anyone mention Hillary, although there was one woman who had been to the McCain rally earlier in the day. And as soon as she started talking about the rally, people started walking toward the drinks.

I can't wait to vote tomorrow. It should be a great day for the Democratic Party.

 


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Things that make you go hmmmm. (0.00 / 0)
although there was one woman who had been to the McCain rally earlier in the day. And as soon as she started talking about the rally, people started walking toward the drinks.

Hmmm? Was that Tessa? ;-)


The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice. --Martin Luther King, Jr.


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No, this was a McCain supporter! (0.00 / 0)
   

[ Parent ]
Another excellent diary from Mydd -- Obama's Krugman Problem (0.00 / 0)
Obama's Krugman Problem

The 2000-2003 period was a dark time for the left. There were few in the media whom we could point to as a voice of truth in a period of increasing media fealty to Bush. New York Times columnist Paul Krugman was one of the few brave voices of truth and eerie prescience on issue after issue of concern to progressives. As Jerome put it in early December:

If there's one person that I would point to in the establishment press that was there during the wilderness, the period of '01-'03, before Dean arrived on the scene, it was Paul Krugman. The guy should be awarded some sort of Presidential award by the next President for his truth telling while nearly all the rest of the establishment press could only be found on their knees in front of BushCo during the beginning of this decade.

Which is why I take Krugman's concerns about several of Barack Obama positions to heart. For one thing, he's been overtly critical of Obama on his treatment of Social Security:

Lately, Barack Obama has been saying that major action is needed to avert what he keeps calling a "crisis" in Social Security -- most recently in an interview with The National Journal. Progressives who fought hard and successfully against the Bush administration's attempt to panic America into privatizing the New Deal's crown jewel are outraged, and rightly so.

And he's identified Obama's stimulus package as the least progressive of the Democrats' plans:

The Obama campaign's initial response to the latest wave of bad economic news was, I'm sorry to say, disreputable: Mr. Obama's top economic adviser claimed that the long-term tax-cut plan the candidate announced months ago is just what we need to keep the slump from "morphing into a drastic decline in consumer spending." Hmm: claiming that the candidate is all-seeing, and that a tax cut originally proposed for other reasons is also a recession-fighting measure -- doesn't that sound familiar?

   Anyway, on Sunday Mr. Obama came out with a real stimulus plan...[H]is stimulus proposal is similar to those of the other Democratic candidates, but tilted to the right.

But most concerning of all are the red flags Krugman has raised vis a vis Obama's health care proposal, which, as has been made quite clear by now by both Clinton and Obama alike, does not include an individual mandate and thus can not be technically considered universal. As a counter to this, Obama claims health care would be affordable under his plan and, hence, the uninsured would buy in.

SNIP

I held my nose and voted for Obama today.  Hope I don't regret it.  Hope that the Progressive Movement will hold whomever wins the nomination accountable.


Krugman Wanted Edwards (0.00 / 0)
Edwards had the best health care plan; and Hillary's is closer to the Edwards' plan.  That said, Hillary also has taken huge sums from health care interests -- and therefore, if elected, might not be inclined to follow up on her late-entry campaign proposal.

I too will support Obama, as Hillary has been appalling on foreign policy; and, in any case, she is more likely to lose to a McCain candidacy than Obama.

But as the diary says, Paul Krugman has been the most solid progressive voice in the mainstream media.  While I don't agree with him on this one, I don't think he deserves to be dismissed for favoring the lesser of two candidates, neither of which would be the first choice of most people who read and write for this blog.


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