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NYT: Dean (, Jim) Supporting Lamont

by: thirdparty

Tue Apr 11, 2006 at 00:47:29 AM EDT


The NYT story is a day late, but no big surprises here:

James Dean said his goal in supporting Mr. Lamont "isn't 'Get Joe' or get anybody," adding, "Winning is important, but it's as much for getting the voters active and engaged and conditioned - I'm running out of words here - getting them used to the idea that there's a choice."

Didn't realize how deep the Dean/Lamont connection apparently goes:

Mr. Lamont, a former selectman in Greenwich, was the host of a fund-raiser for Howard Dean in 1993 or 1994, when the elder Dean was governor of Vermont, James Dean said. In 2002, when Howard Dean was exploring a run for president, Mr. Lamont was among a handful of Democrats in Connecticut with whom James Dean arranged for his brother to meet.

And Lieberman once again tries but fails miserably to project even the slightest sense of confidence:

Senator Lieberman said on Monday that he and Howard Dean had "a lot of mutual respect" and that he had "gotten very strong support from the leadership of the Democratic Party nationally - Harry Reid, Chuck Schumer, the people who are leaders in the Senate. And some of them, I think, will be expressing that."

"Some of them?" "I think?" Those are mighty cautious words out of the mouth of an 18-year incumbent.

But why should the Senate Democratic leadership express support for a candidate who has said he might just take the money and run to another party?

thirdparty :: NYT: Dean (, Jim) Supporting Lamont
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Where does Howard stand? (0.00 / 0)
Has he made any statements, official or otherwise?

After the Paul Hackett fiasco, Howard said that the DNC will NOT get involved in primaries. (0.00 / 0)
Primaries are between the local and state level candidates.  So Howard will officially not take sides and he should not in this race becuase he's DNC Chair.  Nancy DiNardo should learn from Howard.

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Expect fireworks from Howard though.. (0.00 / 0)
..should Lieberman bolt and go independent, which will be odd because Howard Dean is one of the few Dems who would be glad to be rid of him, making Howard's job that much easier.

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Re: Where does Howard stand (0.00 / 0)
Times article says he's not commenting and that his operation traditionally stays out of primaries.

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Something else worth noting (0.00 / 0)
Apparently the Lamont support is coming from Jim Dean, the private citizen, not from DFA the organization (at least at this point).

My headline would be: "Dean Yes, DFA Not So Much".


True but.. (0.00 / 0)
Financial and personnel support might not be there yet but one assumes there is an implied moral support at DFA. The rumors I'm hearing is that the DFA and MoveOn.org will both support Ned Lamont, sometime soon after the convention. And of course if Lieberman bolts they'll be there in a shot.


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I think that MoveOn and DFA need to get behind Ned ASAP (4.00 / 1)
we need to blow Lieberman out of the water at the convention if possible. And Ned needs $.

If Ned got over 50% of delegates I think it would cripple Lieberman and hopefully his better senses would take over and he would retire. 

Even if he didn't retire, the media, both state and national, would have a feeding frenzy over Lieberman doing so poorly at the convention.


If Ned gets over 50%, he'll win the convention, I believe (0.00 / 0)
That would mean Lieberman could bail out on the Dem Party and go Indy by June.

I expect Ned to get 15% and possible up to 35%.  Even if Ned only gets 15%, that forces the primary.  That's the goal right now, forcing the primary to happen and that will generate good news coverage for Ned and start undercutting Lieberman's stature among CT voters.

Winning the primary and the general election are dependent upon a forcing a primary.  We're not going to blow out Lieberman in a single convetion or vote.  We need to force a primary to build momentum for Ned to win in August and November.


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Open vote by raising of hands (0.00 / 0)
15% is about as high as one would expect or hope for. 35% in May and Joe would know the jig is up and bolt immediately.

It takes  a level of commitment and courage to stand up in front of a room of your peers and vote against a three-term Senator.

I suppose just as telling will be those who decide to abstain.


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Joe is bolting... (0.00 / 0)
He wouldn't have said what he did if he was going to hang out for a Primary. It just doesn't make sense.

The other thing to consider is that Primary turn-out is a tough thing to game. Lamont could be at only 40% in the polls, but still win the election.

Therefore, if Ned gets any traction, which he is. Joe is gone, gone, gone, retreating to November. (and screwing over every other Democrat running this fall.)


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Nothing the Lieberman campaign has done so far... (0.00 / 0)
..has made a whole lot of sense if you ask me.

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