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Threatening Lieberman-Kyl Amendment On Iran

by: Scarce

Sat Sep 22, 2007 at 00:09:50 AM EDT


Jonathan Schwartz over at A Tiny Revolution, via Iran Nuclear Watch covers yet another troubling Lieberman story. There's not much I can add to this as it speaks for itself.

Amazingly, no one anywhere in the US media seems to have noticed that yesterday Jon Kyl (Arizona) and Joe Lieberman filed an extremely threatening amendment on Iran to the FY 2008 Defense Authorization bill. I guess all their time was taken up with the earth-shakingly important issue of newspaper ads.

It's a "Sense of the Senate" resolution, which means it has no legal force, but as the Congressional Research Service will tell you, "foreign governments pay close attention to [such resolutions] as evidence of shifts in U.S. foreign policy priorities." If you want you can read it yourself (.doc), but here are the most important paragraphs:

 

(3) that it should be the policy of the United States to combat, contain, and roll back the violent activities and destabilizing influence inside Iraq of the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran, its foreign facilitators such as Lebanese Hezbollah, and its indigenous Iraqi proxies;

  (4) to support the prudent and calibrated use of all instruments of United States national power in Iraq, including diplomatic, economic, intelligence, and military instruments, in support of the policy described in paragraph (3) with respect to the Government of the Islamic Republic of Iran and its proxies.


If something like this passes both the House and Senate, I think Bush could legitimately argue that between it, the War Powers Act and the 2001 and 2002 Authorizations to Use Military Force, he has all the authority he needs to attack Iran.
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The National Review comments (0.00 / 0)
No great imagination is required to predict the Left's attack on the amendment. "Needlessly provocative," they will say. "What we need is more diplomacy." And, "If you don't like American soldiers dying from Iranian-made IEDs, bring them home."

The last is of course another way of saying, "Surrender" - not a bad policy, if you don't mind giving an Islamist, terrorist-sponsoring, nuclearizing theocracy the dominant role in the Middle East.

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Friday News Dump (0.00 / 0)
Interesting that he snuck this in on a Friday, the day when political news is least noticed.

I hope that MoveOn.org and the other activist organizations send out email blasts to their members to let them know about this and to put pressure on Senators to vote against it.

Lieberman's last measure like this passed unanimously; it shouldn't have passed, and neither should this one.


How the heck.... (0.00 / 0)
did the Dems let this be placed in an appropriation bill?

WTF is going on?


Policy of Appeasement? (0.00 / 0)
Please don't misinterpret the following comment as any support for Bush's War.  I want our troops home Now, and find the policy of honoring those who have died by leaving more there to die is treasonous.

That said, what are Kyl-Lieberman amendments doing that is not already US (WAR) Policy?  Is the Bush-Cheney-Petreaus Army currently avoiding conflict IN IRAQ that might involve Iranian nationals or their proxies?


Read it as it was meant (0.00 / 0)
It reads just like any other prior Congressional call to war. That's what it is. An authorization for the United States to make war on Iran.

As I noted in another thread, I have a family member in the Army Rangers. Guess which units will be the first to cross the border into Iran and attack the sovereign nation?

Hey Joe, when you put your kids on the line, rather than my family, then you can write act of wars against other countries. Until then, shut your fucking yap.

The question is not what you are, we already determined that, we are now negotiating price.
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When are you Conn residents going to try and impeach LIEberman? (0.00 / 0)
THERE HAS TO BE AWAY!!!!!!!

After the DKos sponsored poll saying Lamont would beat that IDIOT LIEberman handily, this would be the time......There has to be some law on the books to impeach the warmongering lunatic?


Via the Connecticut Post (4.00 / 2)
From the Letters to the Editor:


Now all of Connecticut knows finally the depth of Joe Lieberman's cynicism and the flagrancy of his self-righteousness. His vote against the health of the U.S. military Wednesday surely distinguished him from the vast majority of his constituents. His statement to the press indicates how little he cares: "The fact that it didn't get enough votes says that Congress doesn't have the votes to stop this strategy of success from going forward." Gen. Petraeus estimates that an average of 60 troops will be killed per month as this "strategy of success" goes forward. Perhaps Mr. Lieberman needs to visit Dover Air Base to welcome each shipment. Mr. Lieberman has failed his constituency, our troops and any moral code he thinks he had.

Roger Conway
Trumbull


To Sen. Joseph I. Lieberman:

With constant prodding from draft dodgers such as you, Wolfowitz, Perle and Shays, President Bush deceived our nation into an insoluble situation which has cost the lives of 4,000 U.S. service personnel, the wounding of 28,000 more, the lives of tens of thousands of innocent Iraqi civilians, the destruction of their homes and sources of electric services and water supply - and has wasted billions of dollars very much needed to improve our homeland facilities and services (perhaps buying high-speed drilling equipment to get men out of collapsed coal mines, for example).

Currently, when there may be an opportunity to slow the pace of this insane Bush-Cheney War Mentality, you showed your unbecoming bravado. At the Petraeus hearings, you pressed the general again and again to say he needed authority to use military forces under his command against Iran. It is beyond belief that anyone in their right mind with any sense of history and a modicum of concern for human beings would press for such a course of action. Have you not seen the pictures of babies and children in Iraq burned and crippled by bombs and grenade fire - the old and the frightened cowering as U.S. soldiers do their duty? Or our soldiers and Marines - sometimes in pieces - dead on the ground?

Is the Bush government's inability to "control" a country of 25 million people reason to have the same disqualified-by-results "commander in chief" throw away more lives trying to subdue a nation of 70 million people? Senator, before you talk more of your macho, recall that the men and women nationalists in the Middle East readily blow themselves up for their causes and beliefs. The people on "our side" are not given to such a deadly combat technique. Just lamenting and characterizing that act does not make the U.S. a winner. And in war as in finance, that is the bottom line. What makes Vietnam-era draft dodgers such as you and Shays so quick to promote war with its sure death and destruction? Just a few months ago, "Let's show North Korea how powerful we are" was a cry. Fortunately, the "war now" wackos did not prevail. Senator, cool your bravado and jingoism. It is tragic for those who have to do the fighting and dying, and coming from guys such as you and Shays, it is laughable.

One final comment: You want constituents to see you as a man whose word is his bond and thus his views and actions to be heeded on something as crucial as the Iraq matter. You are not hesitant to play the "my faith" and family values cards as testimony. I tend to judge a man by the durability of his first marriage vows.

Walter J. Howe
Fairfield



LIEberman's Word (0.00 / 0)
This is same the guy who -- right before the last election -- generated robo calls throughout the state claiming: "Nobody wants to end this war more than I do."  His comment only can be construed as remotely truthful (although deliberately misleading) if you add ". . . because I am eager to start another one."  Herr LIEberfahrt, who is full of hot air and therefore deserves this appellation, is beneath contempt!

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