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Shays Press Roundup

by: mattw

Thu Aug 23, 2007 at 13:18:06 PM EDT


I had the opportunity to attend a press briefing with Congressman Shays this morning on the occasion of his 18th return from Iraq, and there's a little bit of news:

  • The new "Dear Mr. Secretary" letter does a few things: it drops the "Iraqis call themselves Iraqis" pretense and admits the factionalized nature of the conflict in Iraq; it also alleges that the Kurdistan Worker's Party is a terrorist organization that should be outlawed (it seems this is not especially controversial), and calls on bordering countries not named Iran to help the U.S. in the P.R. effort being mounted to prevent troop redeployment. (Those countries would be Syria, Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Jordan, and Kuwait.)
  • Pressed on a withdrawal date that he'd support, the Congressman offered December 2008, though he signaled that he has a quadruple-Friedman strategy -- twenty-four months away is a "responsible timeline."
  • Shays criticized "others" for calling publicly for President Maliki to step down (I have not seen these calls, and he didn't name names), saying that it's an insult to people who are very sensitive to being slighted. These critiques should be made privately, he believes.

    And then he said that he thought Maliki should step down. (In a room full of reporters, no less.)

  • Shays took on Native American groups, saying that the U.S. shouldn't be granting tribal nation status without the approval of the Bureau of Indian Affairs. (Yeah, that Bureau of Indian Affairs.) He took credit for stopping tribes from being recognized as sovereign nations from 1995 to the present -- I gather that a few just got through, including one in North Carolina that particularly offended Shays.
  • On FISA, Shays said that one of the limitations addressed by the new law apart from the "point-to-point communications outside the U.S. that get routed through the U.S." was clarifying the authority of the government in intercepting satellite signals and tower-based radio signals (i.e. cell service). He got away from talking about wireless interception in a hurry -- it seemed to me that he mentioned it by mistake.
  • Two classic lines – not knowing what FISA stood for (a staffer bailed him out), and this:

    Shays: [With the FISA court,] Justice Department officials need to present [their case] in writing, and also need to swear that everything in it is... is... is...

    Helpful Reporter: True?

    Shays: Is what they say it is.

  • He intends to campaign starting in August 2008.

More later tonight.

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Shays Press Roundup | 18 comments
Quadruple Friedman (4.00 / 1)
24 months sounds responsible to Shays? It's the length of the entire US military involvement in World War I. The time elapsed from D-Day and the landing at Normandy to Victory in Europe was less than 1 year.

Apparently (4.00 / 1)
7000 troops is the maximum you can remove in any one month. Says Shays anyway.

–7.25 / –7.28 | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tw...

[ Parent ]
Make believe numbers (4.00 / 1)
That's some BS number just so Shays can call anything more than 7000 'precipitous' withdrawal. If Notre Dame can pull 80,000 fans into South Bend from all over the Midwest on any given Saturday I think the US military is up to the logistical task of moving 7,000 soldiers, airmen and Marines from Iraq to Kuwait each week. Shays figure is a part and parcel of his political stance against withdrawal and has zero to do with the logistics of the problem. In other words, it's just so much bullshit.

[ Parent ]
True (0.00 / 0)
I would think moving the equipment and material would be that harder part at this point. It's been nearly five years now of occupation, which looks more like a permanent one every day.

[ Parent ]
Agreed but those are sunk costs (0.00 / 0)
Although any sane reading of the situation would see our equipment and material in Iraq as sunk costs and not try to prolong our exit carting it out. We'll be leaving a few nice bases behind regardless. It's better to wrap all of our stuff in a bow and give it to local Iraqis with a smile. The American people aren't going to care if we leave $20 billion dollars worth of stuff behind - we've been lied to for years and hearing nothing there is permanent anyway. What's a few impermanent structures between friends?

We need to get out of Iraq quickly and on good terms. Leaving nice facilities and defensive equipment behind should be considered part of an amiciable exit, not an obstacle to speedy withdrawal.


[ Parent ]
Dragged kicking and screaming (4.00 / 1)
You're looking at this rationally, with the goal of withdrawal.

The administration is looking at it in exactly the opposite terms, through the looking glass.

In my opinion, once someone else becomes president they'll also look from through the same glass.


[ Parent ]
My Money is on Maliki being killed (0.00 / 0)
pretty soon in order for W to declare a "fresh start" and I'm also betting Lieberman calls Malikis assasination a "turning of a corner".

[ Parent ]
Interesting, because... (0.00 / 0)
In June 1944 the United States and its allies were able to put more than 100,000 troops into France in a single day.  Have we become that inept over the past few decades?  I think not.

[ Parent ]
Yesterday, Shays was at an event (0.00 / 0)
that I attended in Bridgeport. He was introduced as Chris Dodd. A gasp from the crowd, red faces all around and an apology. I thought it was great.

What was the event? (0.00 / 0)
I'd love to hear details!

I can imagine that mistake eliciting a gasp...


[ Parent ]
Ribbon Cutting (0.00 / 0)
for the Intermodal Transportation Center's new bus terminal and parking lot. It was Mayor Fabrizi that did the introduction. He then hugged Chris and said what a great friend he has been for the City.

[ Parent ]
Fabrizi shrugged it off (0.00 / 0)
and mumbled something about a Fruedian moment. Someone named Janet was there representing Dodd. No one from Lieberman's camp.

[ Parent ]
August 2008 (0.00 / 0)
Can you explain more about this statement that he intends to start to campaign in August 2008.  Does that mean he'll forego raising money 'till then (because that is campaigning)? 

Or does it just mean he'll have lots of photo ops for $23 radios that are paid for by taxpayers and not campaign contributors?


shays is a jerk ok i now if for along time now e have to get out now (0.00 / 0)
there  talking points from  rove 

By the way (4.00 / 4)
Not to be all flattering or anything, but it's a great privilege to be able to write something like this and be able to assume that the audience already knows wtf is going on in the world. Paying serious attention to the news lately, it occurred to me that most writers don't get to assume that their readers follow stories from day-to-day.

–7.25 / –7.28 | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tw...

Superb work, Matt (4.00 / 3)
Really!  Very well done, indeed! 

[ Parent ]
political junkies anonymous! (4.00 / 2)
If there was ever a meeting for something like this, then I wouldn't be surprised to see a lot of MLN'ers there.

Ok, where are those damned donuts?!?

The arc of history is long, but it bends toward justice. --Martin Luther King, Jr.


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