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Guerrilla Vlogger: Edwards Town Hall in NH - July 2007

by: mbair

Mon Jul 30, 2007 at 22:38:04 PM EDT



Image Hosted by ImageShack.usI went to vlog an Edwards Town Hall in Dover, NH on Saturday. It was a day marked by torrential thunderstorms yet about 300 NHer-ites turned out to see the candidate speak and take hard questions from Granite State voters. They, my neighbors to the north, know they're king makers and they take their job seriously. Thank God that at least "some people" still have respect for the process. The media is certainly not capable of any meaningful discussion of the issues in this campaign and they will not be reformed in time for the primaries. Nary a patriot in the DC press corps.

Before the event started I heard some of the Edwards advance people talking about the overflow crowds they had seen at the stops all day long. He had done a bunch of house parties that were packed with 200 to 300 people. The Epping event left about 100 people standing out on the lawn under threatening skies. In this clip posted by the campaign at YouTube he's talking to an overflow crowd - in a garage in Nashua.

If you're going to an event in NH, for a Democrat, then you'd better plan to get there early. All the passion and attention seems to be on our side this time. Thank God that at least "some people" know what the GOP is doing to our country these days.



mbair :: Guerrilla Vlogger: Edwards Town Hall in NH - July 2007


The Q & A for this diary is now posted: Guerrilla vlogger: Edwards Town Hall in NH Part 2


Image Hosted by ImageShack.usVideo: Edwards in Dover: "It's a change election." (5:17)

Bill McCann former NH State Rep from Dover introduces Edwards with some very brief remarks. He has endorsed Edwards in the primary and discusses how Edwards at the top of the ticket would help NH Dems rid themselves of Son of Sununu.

I'm happy to be here today and have the privilege of introducing to you someone who I think will make a tremendous candidate for president.

He has a record that would make any Democrat proud. He's in the tradition of FDR and JFK, caring about people, caring about working people, caring about poor people... And he's someone who I believe will be able to take it to the Republicans next year so not only will we be successful and make him President but we'll continue our Democratic majority in NH and ... rid ourselves of one Republican US Senator: Mr. Sununu
Son of Sununu is definitely going down in 2008.

Image Hosted by ImageShack.usEdwards always starts with "Elizabeth is doing great," and a Jack story. This one is pretty good and it has the added bonus of Elizabeth delivering the punch line. Suffice to say that he's still sore from the Lance Armstrong bike ride in Iowa recently. And that Mr. Armstrong is a gentleman.

And it's right down to business:

My view is that Washington is broken and the system there is rigged against you. It's rigged on behalf of big insurance companies, big drug companies, big oil companies.

These people run your government just in case you don't know and we have got to take them on. I feel strongly that we need big change in this country, big serious change. We will never bring about this change without taking on these entrenched interests. Now there are some people who believe that, you know there are some people who would say that the way to do this is to sit at the table with them and negotiate. I think that is a complete fantasy. The idea that these people are going to give away the power that they have had for decades ... it will not happen. We have to take them on ... and take back the government on behalf of you ... And I don't know about you but I'm not interested in trading one group of insiders for a different group of insiders. That's the last thing we need.

This government doesn't belong to that crowd of insiders in Washington. It belongs to you.

And I just want to make a comment that is a little controversial so I'll warn you in advance but I believe it. I think the last thing when we're having to take on these powerful interests to bring about the change we need in this country, the last thing we need is two Democratic presidential candidates fighting with each other instead of fighting for the change we desperately need in America.
I agree and though there has been a lot of intelligent discussion and passion expressed at dailykos over the latest Obama-Clinton kerfuffle, face it: it's a cat fight. At least the way the media has been covering the issue is completely brain dead and meaningless. I know that many here would say that Obama is merely fighting back and that is true on the whole, in my opinion, but the media exploit the willingness of the campaigns to go after each other and reduce the whole issue to tripe. I'm not a big fan of tripe. And judging from the state of the union I suggest you just say no to scraps and demand real meat in your political coverage. Good luck getting it, but first we have to demand it.


Image Hosted by ImageShack.usVideo: Edwards in Dover: Universal Health Care (4:09)

This clip details his proposal for ensuring that Universal Health Care in this country stops being a campaign slogan and starts to be a reality for real people who really need it in a real and unambiguous way.

He talks about a man he met on the Road to One America Poverty Tour a couple of weeks ago, a man named James Lowe. Although politicians regularly anecdotal-ize their position papers to put a human face on the issues they discuss, this one is more than that. This one is straight from the heart. Based on Edwards's background I can't help but think that James Lowe is John Edwards's Doppelganger of sorts, at least to the candidate. Edwards has always impressed me with his compassion for people which is a very different thing from condescension. The ability to walk a mile is one that eludes so many of us in our daily lives. It's not easy to teach and it's damn hard to practice in your daily life. You know you should be doing it, but you can't quite divorce yourself from the demands of your daily life and your own ego or your preconceived notions of how others should act. And when you do manage to understand, it's awfully hard to put that understanding to work as wisdom or generosity of spirit. Edwards meets my threshold.

Edwards on James Lowe in Dover:

So I was sitting with him and I had a little trouble understanding him and he explained to me that he was born with a severe cleft palette. And he didn't have the money to get it fixed. And he was grateful for somebody voluntarily taking care of it for him... The problem was that it was fixed when he was fifty years old. For fifty years this man lived in the richest nation on the planet and couldn't talk because he couldn't get the health care that he needed. And I was glad that he was proud and thankful and very noble about the whole thing. But that's not what I felt. I felt outrage; outrage that in the United States of America someone could live for fifty years without being able to talk when all that was wrong with him was completely fixable.
Imagine growing up with the taunts because kids can be really cruel. I know because I used to be one. Imagine the severe and lasting injury to your spirit when people called you stupid or refer to your "problem" in hushed voices when all it would have taken is a six hour elective surgery in a local hospital for you to speak. It ain't rocket science, cleft palettes have been extremely treatable for decades.

Image Hosted by ImageShack.usTying it back to the opening salvo Edwards continues:

One thing I can tell you for sure is that James Lowe has no lobbyist in Washington, DC. You can take that to the bank.

And I'd be willing to bet that there aren't many of you who have a lobbyist in Washington, DC either...

This has to change.
Amen.

He talks about his plan for coverage and he states that the first thing every plan must include is coverage for everyone. As a MA resident, I now live in a state where the government has mandated that every single resident have health care. The law went in to effect July 1, 2007 and no one knows for sure what will happen long term up here, but in the discussion leading up to the passage of the law by the state legislature one thing was definitely agreed upon by all parties: without the universal mandate you're going to get stuck fast and hard into a system with many falling through the cracks.

It is true that we need not just health care, but we need universal health care. Truly universal health care. For me the initial test of any health care plan is: does it cover everybody? Is it required by law to cover everybody?


Image Hosted by ImageShack.usVideo: Edwards in Dover: Economic Inequality (4:27)

In this clip Edwards delivers his remarks on economic inequality in America and slaps the press core for their vapid coverage and branding of the brilliant Two Americas speech that transformed his run and turned him from an also ran into a serious contender for the nomination last time around.

Some of you have heard me talk about the Two Americas and so the press always says to me, "Why do you talk about the Two Americas? What is that the rich and the poor?"

No. The Two Americas are big multi-national corporations and really rich Americans and [then] everybody else. Those are the two different Americas, it's not just the rich and the poor.

You look at what's happening to middle-class families, the vast majority of Americans. Last year, the top 300,000 income earners in America earned more than the bottom 150 million. You think we don't have, we have the worst economic inequality that we've had since the Great Depression and it didn't happen by accident... The effects of globalization have been accelerated by George Bush. He's made it more, more and more. More help to the people who need the least help.
You know what it took to confront that inequality at that time. It took a progressive populist millionaire with compassion, understanding and a commitment to advocate for the vast majority of people who get by without lobbyists or paid fixers on speed dial. He fought for the voiceless to have security and dignity in a chaotic and volatile time. He dedicated himself to everyday people in this country and he chose to abridge our constitutional freedoms set out in the first amendment with the freedom from want and the freedom from fear. FDR fought for the James Lowes out there in all their permutations of want and fear and he fought against America's disgraceful lack of redress of the most grievous of grievances.

Image Hosted by ImageShack.usBill McCann nailed it in the intro.

Edwards turns to poverty in his remarks:

And besides the middle class, universal health care is a big issue to strengthen the middle class in this country. But besides the middle class we have 37 million of our people in this country who wake up in poverty everyday.

How in the world can that be? And how can we think it's okay?

You know one of the great myths that exists in America is that people who live in poverty are just lazy and no account and they won't work. The vast majority of them work. Many of them work full-time. The problem is they can't earn enough to support their families.
And there is a lot that can be done. So don't allow the right wing talking points on Edwards and poverty to just waft through the airwaves and across the country unmolested. It is not class warfare. It is not a political curiosity to be greeted with scorn and derision. It's not about condescension for the poor; it's about the whole ball of wax. It's not about poverty over there; it's about fairness right here. And it all comes tied up in a frame on morality that makes the GOP apoplectic and rightly so. Because what church, synagogue, temple, mosque or other house of worship does not have ingrained in their charter a passion and commitment to serve the least of us? This one plank will give all "values voters" pause when deciding who has earned their vote in November 2008.

As Edwards said in his remarks: It's a change election. The Edwards agenda has the potential to change the entire paradigm in this country. It has the potential to reunite our party with those Reagan Democrats that started voting GOP in the eighties. It has the potential to welcome home voters that don't like those crazy liberals, comme moi, on the coasts. Edwards is a throwback and hopefully, if we nominate him, the Edwards agenda is the future of our party. Because we can't win it on rhetoric alone. We can't win the next one on been there and done that. We can't win the election on Bush bashing alone. We have to offer a positive vision and specific ideas of where we want to be as a country; where we need to be as a people. Edwards meets my threshold on that score too.

And it's not a moment too soon because economic mobility is another complete myth in this country today. America is no longer a meritocracy. Hard work, talent and/or luck is not nearly enough to guarantee any kind of freedom from want and fear. Today the best way to predict a child's financial stability in the future is by what their parents do. The Economist tells us that the "pick your parents paradigm" is A-okay with Americans for various reasons and consequently there should be no political ramifications to this alarming and completely unamerican trend in our country today, but it's not okay. Poverty has become an institution in this country once again. If you're born into it then you're just going to have to survive in it for a good long time. You're just going to have to make due until someone comes along, if they come along that is, to fix your cleft palette out of the goodness of their heart.

That's not right in America.


Image Hosted by ImageShack.usVideo: Edwards in Dover: Energy (1:48)

This clip deals with Global Warming. Offered with no comment here from yours truly.

Video: Edwards in Dover: Iraq (4:14)

This clip covers Iraq. Again this clip just posted in the interests of completeness, I didn't have time to really write up the speech in the full detail I usually do.

For details on any of these issues or a look at the Road to One America Tour check visit the campaign website.

Tomorrow, I'll try to post the questions from the Town Hall in Part 2. Two questions in particular were very noteworthy. The first one was a question about how the transition to a clean fuel economy will affect ordinary people in this country and Edwards goes off on a very interesting tangent in his answer. The second was a very tough and detailed question on Iraq from a knowledgeable Granite State voter with an equally detailed and frank answer from Edwards.

See you out there...

cross-posted at dailykos


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Grievous grievances indeed (0.00 / 0)
See the NOLA series: NOLA Speaks: Take a ride through the Ninth Ward with Eddie Mims.

It's all the same crap and I've had it up to my eye balls in six inch heels with this BS and the media's coverage of haircuts and cat fights.


Great, Great Post (4.00 / 2)
And enough to move Edwards up from my second choice after Gore to almost even.

Same as me (4.00 / 1)
Edwards has been my first choice unless Gore jumps in. The last couple of months though I've been wondering if I really would move from Edwards to Gore.

ps. mbair always does interesting posts.


[ Parent ]
Sweet (4.00 / 1)
I've always been a sucker for a populist message maybe that's why I got my husband that "eat the rich" t-shirt last year. He loves it. We were made for each other.

But the time is right for this kind of a message in the country. Edwards mentions the income inequality being greater than at anytime since the Great Depression, but you have to put that into context. Before WWII, this country was a poor country for the most part. Today there is enormous wealth, that's what makes it so much worse today than in FDR's time.


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PS (0.00 / 0)
I think I'm going back to NOLA for the two year anniversary. I don't have my ticket yet, but I'm pretty sure that I'm going. This trip, if I do it, will center around life and times in the Ninth Ward. Can you imagine?

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Glad you're back to Vlogging (0.00 / 0)
I will read this comprehensive post when I finish updating the milforddemocrats.com website, which is taking forever...I haven't even peeked at MLN in days.

But here, as a reminder is
Eddie Mims
504-258-6812
Rides provided throughout the New Orleans area.

"I am not a Blogger...But I play one on the internet."


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Thanks (0.00 / 0)
Eddie Mims is the only way to fly! I should be getting some phone banking lists from them soon. I haven't gotten my ticket yet, but I'm pretty sure I'm going to go down. They're having an event at noon on the 28th to present a list of grievances to HUD or whatever it is and then a funeral procession on the anniversary also at noon.

I'm kinda scared of the heat I'll encounter. I'm going to look like one sorry Yankee in that tropical climate.


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Mwahahahaha .... (0.00 / 0)
All part of my evil plan.

Thanks for the positive comment. Incidentally, why Gore? If it's because Global warming and clean energy are key concerns of yours then could you look at the energy clip I posted at the end of this diary? I'd like your input, from your perspective, as to how Edwards measures up in that department.


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It's Not Just Environment (4.00 / 1)
Gore was the first nationally known Democrat to speak out against the war, and did so eloquently. He has also spoken out against administration abuses domestically.  He is also the candidate most able to

1. Stop Hillary

2. Get elected


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Let us not forget (0.00 / 0)
That Gore did pull it off on 2000 and he pull it out by winning the trifecta of PA, OH and Florida in fine populist fashion. That was really hard to do for Gore. I never had a problem with Monica because I thought we all knew that Bill was a lying slutbag when we elected him the first time, but he handed Gore a completely untenable situation. The Clinton taint was hard to scrape off. 

I also agree that Hillary must be stopped in '08. If every election does boil down to a conversation at some point then a race with Hillary as the front-runner would amount to an 8-month screeching tirade on both sides. Our country can't sustain that kind of a campaign. We need someone who can bring some unity and build a coalition for change based on a positive message. I really don't see that from Clinton at all and she's definitley not going to screw with the money. Edwards has spent his life doing that and I think Gore has the potential, but I really don't think he's running. I think he would have gone for it in 2004. I was not psyched that he sat that one out. The Christmas of 2002 I got Gore in '04 T-shirts made up for family. I couldn't wait to put a RE-elect Gore bumper sticker on my car. That would have been a sweet ride because we would have been able to re-examine the race in 2000 as a country. It would have been like "oops, let's try this again folks."


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Yes He Did Pull It Off (4.00 / 1)
And he would be a much stronger candidate today then he was then. (He's a lot less stiff, has improved tremendously as a speaker, etc.)

If he doesn't get into it by Labor Day, then you are right, he's not running.


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The media (0.00 / 0)
completely trashed Gore in the 2000 election. Remember? It was so brutal. I always thought that one fact alone was more than enough reason to vote Gore in. I mean if the media take as their sacred duty to derail, marginalize and otherwise impugn you personally and your agenda then you must be doing something right.

As far as his speaking ability, Gore had that baptist minister thing going on. I never really thought it was a weak point. I liked that "down home" thing because I think it "played in Peoria."

Most of Gore's problems with message were due solely, my opinion, to Clinton taint and media marginalization. 


[ Parent ]
I like Al for what he's doing these days but... (4.00 / 1)
he was one of the driving forces behind the drive to pass NAFTA under Clinton. See the book The Selling of Free Trade: Nafta, Washington, and the Subversion of American Democracy by John R. MacArthur). I had forgotten about this, but the book describes how Gore went on CNN to debate Ross Perot over globalization / free trade. Gore and the Clinton administration pulled together New Democrats (including Bill Richardson, Bill Bradley and Rahm Emanuel) and some Republicans to form a coalition to give NAFTA a positive "good for the economy, good for America" sound byte and I guess not enough people saw through it at the time. Funny how in retrospect Perot sounds like the wise sage, unfortunately (as the book describes) he was ineffective at lobbying representatives to vote no on NAFTA. In any case, Gore was better prepared, and won the debate hands down, and this was something of a turning point in passing NAFTA.

The New Dems in the 90s made a calculation that they wanted to be allied with big business for political reasons (=$$$). Now we have companies outsorcing, moving their accounts to offshore banks, moving their factories to China (and threatening to move elsewhere if China enacts basic labor laws like, oh, making slave labor illegal), and apparently shareholders are happy as long as earnings and profits are okey-dokey.

Is it unfair to hold this episode of history against Gore (and, say, Richardson)? I don't know, if he did jump in the race I'd have to think about it long and hard. Like I said, I'm really happy about the stand he's taking now, both with global warming and his recent book which lays out how the media culture is helping savage elements from the right rip the country to shreds. It's kind of funny though, that progressives would lavish praise to a politician who is willing to speak out aggressively, if only because the frontrunner Mrs. Clinton (who experienced the same struggles with the Republican Congress and comes from the same New Dem ideology) is willing to be only midly critical, and certainly never scathing when discussing the current president who is regarded as the worst disaster in politics by 70% of the country.

So - I'd think about it, but I feel much more comfortable supporting someone who is speaking the language of populism - in a way that pretty much nobody else does these days - and that's Edwards. And mbairs diary does a good job of illustrating exactly what's going on, while the media continues to basically ignore him. I hope he does well in Iowa and has a strong showing in NH, maybe a reasonably close second, and hopefully then there will be more attention paid.

"There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning." - Warren Buffet


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I Have a Hard Time Holding It Against Him (4.00 / 1)
Because I bought it at the time too. Edwards is ahead in Iowa according to the latest poll.

[ Parent ]
This is a good point (0.00 / 0)
vis a vis free trade on Gore. As far as holding it against Gore I agree that the jury should remain out until he gets in it and starts cranking out position papers. We, the jury, need to remember that Gore was advocating the Clinton position in that debate. He made have agreed with it at the time, but in essense he had to go with the "numero uno" on that issue.

Now having said that and without the benefit of having read the book you recommend, times are different today than the go-go 90's. The problems labor is/was facing might have been following the same downward trajectory, but I can't help but think that either Gore or Clinton, Bill, would have a different perspective now in this climate.

There is an argument to be made for service unions to build the middle-class like the industrial unions did in the last century. Edwards had this is his remarks for about a year. A lot of that language is gone now as he's constantly updating his stump speech depending on current events.

Service employees believe it or not represent something like 50-60 million workers in the economy. No shit. That's a lot of people and whether the employees have a union to represent them is totally about local politics. That's not right. Right to work essentially means no right for workers, yet the money pits local communities and states against each other. Service jobs can't be off-shored, but today it's questionable whether they can provide you with a living wage. 

Further, if we can stop the blood letting and implement a tax code that makes it punitive to off-shore good jobs then we have a chance. That requires this kind of agenda. I think Gore would recognize that, but my heart belongs to this message now. This one is so vast and comprehensive, it's got legs. Now if we can only get rid of the "hair" and the cat fights. They only produce fur balls anyway.


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As far as (0.00 / 0)
I hope he does well in Iowa and has a strong showing in NH, maybe a reasonably close second, and hopefully then there will be more attention paid.
Amen.

[ Parent ]
It was in the Fall of 2002 when I heard that Gore said that free trade (4.00 / 1)
must be fixed.  He was interviewed on some Penn radio station, so don't have the link. 

Back in 2000, Gore debated Perot and won it because he proved that Perot's family was profiting from global trade.  Basically Gore proved that Perot was a hypocrite on free trade and globalization.


[ Parent ]
Thanks for the info (0.00 / 0)
I really hadn't heard him speak on issues other than global warming, Iraq and impeachment vis a vis Abu Ghraib.

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