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Toward a stronger government of the people

by: Maura

Mon Jul 16, 2007 at 09:44:34 AM EDT


Christine Stuart has the story on Rep. Larsen's town hall meeting in Wethersfield:

Some of U.S. Congressman John Larson’s constituents are asking why Congress hasn’t aggressively pursed impeachment proceedings against the White House.

At a Sunday forum on the Iraq War, Lois Bromson of East Hartford said the biggest mistake Democrats made when they took control of the House was continuing to fund the war. She said she watched Bill Moyers Journal Friday and is now convinced “impeachment is the way to go.” [...]

Larson was quick to caution, but not entirely dismiss, the idea of impeachment. [...]

One man brought up the fact that impeachment is not solely about ousting Bush and Cheney from the White House, it’s about the constitutional crisis. The audience again applauded.

This kind of public support for impeachment seems to represent a significant change in public opinion.  Last week's ARG poll showed that even 50% of independents support beginning impeachment proceedings against President Bush. 

Christine Stuart's reporting reminded me of a really powerful post by Jane Hamsher that I read yesterday at Firedoglake, in which she quoted this alarming piece by Joel Balkin about "Constitutional Hardball":

At this point in Bush’s Presidency three things matter above all others. They motivate this final round of constitutional hardball: The first is keeping secret what the President and his advisers have done. The second is running out the clock to prevent any significant dismantling of his policies until his term ends. The third is doing whatever he can proactively to ensure that later governments do not hold him or his associates accountable for any acts of constitutional hardball or other illegalities practiced during his term in office.

If the NSA program and the Torture Memos were examples of the second round of constitutional hardball, the Libby commutation and Harriet Meiers’ refusal to testify before Congress are examples of the third round. Although his Presidency now seems to be a failure, Bush’s third round of constitutional hardball may be every bit as important as the first two. That is because if Bush is never held accountable for what he did in office, future presidents will be greatly tempted to adopt features of his practices. If they temper his innovations and his excesses only slightly, they will still seem quite admirable and restrained in comparison to Bush. As a result, if Congress and the public do not decisively reject Bush’s policies and practices, some particularly unsavory features of his Presidency will survive in future Administrations. If that happens, Bush’s previous acts of constitutional hardball will have paid off after all. He may not have created a new and lasting constitutional regime, but he will have introduced long-lasting weaknesses and elements of decay into our constitutional system.

Joel Balkin hits it out of the park.  We need to consider not just what further damage Bush/Cheney can do in the 17 months they have remaining, but what precedent this "constitutional hardball" sets for future administrations.

I've begun to believe that the lower Bush's approval numbers go -- and they're heading into the teens at this point -- the more free he feels to act without consideration of the Constitution or the good of the country.  The Scooter Libby commutation is just one symptom of the larger problem of Bush being free to act without consideration of the American people.  And I share Jane's alarm at the long-term implications of the "Constitutional hardball" that Bush is playing.  If the American people don't play hardball as well, what will we have empowered our future presidents to do?  Are we still a government of the people, by the people, and for the people?

I finally saw Sicko this weekend.  It was incredibly moving and powerful, and what shook me the most was the clip of American expats in Europe contrasting our system of government with what they found overseas.  "Here the governmnent is afraid of the people.  In America, people are afraid of the government."  How can we have allowed this to happen in a democracy?  What must we do to better organize at the grassroots level to return more power to the people?

UDPATE: Let's make them stand and filibuster.  If they're going to obstruct, then make them have to work for it.  Don't make it easier for them to stand in the way of the progress of the Democratic Congress!

Maura :: Toward a stronger government of the people
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Congress does not have a fundamental understanding (0.00 / 0)
of the Constitution. They need to sit down and READ IT.

Impeachment isn't for blowjobs.. it's for crap like the stuff that Cheney and Bush are pulling right now, as I type this.

I saw an interesting segment on Bill Moyers (it was on TiVo, I think it was from a few weeks ago) where a writer from The Nation and some other mag were discussing how impeachment is an important tool for the democratic process. One of the gentlement made the observation that no, the US Congress doesn't 'get it'.. yet everyday folk seem to. That's sad and scary at the same time.

Our representation needs to WAKE UP.

I just want to shake some of them to get them out of their zombie like state.

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It's not just Congress (0.00 / 0)
It's the people.  WTF is up with our incredibly low turnout numbers for elections?  Why are so few people even registered to vote?  How can Congress and the President be answerable to the people if the people don't even ask????

What can we do to shake people out of this toxic apathy?


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Congress needs to read the Constitution (0.00 / 0)
Your comment reminds me of a little blurb I saw in Tne Onion, the satirical news site, a few years back. It said "Sen. Chris Dodd recently discovered the U.S. Constitution while vacuuming the other day.  Seems it had slipped behind the couch and no one noticed it was missing."

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I think you may be surprised (0.00 / 0)
at what some in Congress do understand... It all comes down to whether or not they actually do something about it. If they do not do something about it then they do not deserve to keep their jobs, IMHO.

I am hopeful, but I am not holding my breath given the vote to fund the endless occupation. Put me firmly in the camp of "I will believe it when I see it."



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This letter writer in today's The Day disagrees with you about "Sicko" (0.00 / 0)
'Sicko' Ignores Failings Found In Other Nations

Look at facts, not at the “Sicko” propaganda articles. The film is based on anecdotal evidence, not facts. Facts tell us that people in Canada wait to see a specialist for more than 17 weeks and about 800,000 are on the waiting list for medical procedures such as surgery.

“Sicko” reported that Canadian medical facilities had fast service. The facts indicate that no government-controlled system anywhere is effective. They all limit funding, which results in limits on services. Why does Sicko recommend a government-controlled system?

The U.S. health-care system has many problems. The primary one is cost. I wonder why “Sicko” did not mention this. Consider the facts.

Our medical-expense payment system isolates people from the cost of services, thus a real market, which would lower treatment costs, cannot work in this situation. Over 50 percent of cost can be attributed to people's unhealthy lifestyles. What should be done? Many say we should cover all the uninsured. Connecticut, however, has a low uninsured rate compared to other states. Of those, 32 percent of them earn over $50,000 so they could buy coverage. About 33 percent are eligible for Husky coverage.

The real problem is the 20 percent to 30 percent of the uninsured who are truly needy. They could be helped with a public-private partnership. This recommendation was one of many health insurance professionals in Connecticut shared with state legislators.

The bottom line is, working on the problems is better than government control.


I think this letter writer is confused between facts and fiction.

BILL MOYERS JOURNAL | Impeachment Panel (0.00 / 0)

This week, Bill Moyers Journal takes an in-depth look at the heated talk of impeachment taking place across the country. To explore the issue, Bill Moyers is joined by Bruce Fein, a constitutional scholar, who was Associate Deputy Attorney General under President Reagan and is a weekly columnist for THE WASHINGTON TIMES and John Nichols, a Washington correspondent for THE NATION magazine and author of THE GENIUS OF IMPEACHMENT: The Founders' Cure for Royalism.

The program airs Friday, July 13 at 9 p.m. on PBS



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wee  need  to impeachmeant to  we wil try get jim himes aboard  and  larson  rosa  ok  call  all the  reps  guys

hey its sal (0.00 / 0)
what did you  say dude  your saying i dont  no jim  jim  town chair ok thats  why  we need to save cinstiun ok  i  do alot  ok i  dont how you are  if you  want  go after then  try to  ok  dude

hi (4.00 / 2)
i am  sorry ok  dude  i didnt  mean to piss  you of  sal

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i am very sorry ok i am not  good at spelling ok  online  i am very sorry thank you  for defding  me  ok i am trying  sal

Use Firefox (0.00 / 0)
when you misspell a word the firefox browser will underline the work and allow you to use the right-click button to get possible words to replace it with.

Of course, you have to get sort of close to the correct spelling to begin with, but it is better than nothing. :-)


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alas (0.00 / 0)
it doesn't catch typo's that are actual words... that should be word, not work in the last post... :-)

The question is not what you are, we already determined that, we are now negotiating price.
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The beginning of a Neocon coup d'état? (0.00 / 0)
Ignoring the Constitution, and ripping control of government away from Congress — and the people — is as close to a coup as we've ever head in the U.S., with the possible exception of the Kennedy assassination.

A coup is "the sudden overthrow of a government, often through illegal means by a part of the state establishment."

From Wiki:

The coup succeeds if its opponents fail to dislodge the plotters, allowing them to consolidate their position, obtain the surrender or acquiescence of the populace and surviving armed forces, and claim legitimacy. Coups typically use the power of the existing government for its own takeover. As Edward Luttwak remarks in his Coup d'État: A Practical Handbook: "A coup consists of the infiltration of a small but critical segment of the state apparatus [Dept of Justice, perhaps?], which is then used to displace the government from its control of the remainder."

Impeachment is the correct response to this kind of behavior.


i agree (0.00 / 0)
we  need  to tell larson  i tole rosa  in  on sat  we need to tell  joe courtny  and chris  all you might no is a firnd  amine wehn i go  to dc i go see him ok

 
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