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Whither CFL?

by: BranfordBoy

Thu Jan 11, 2007 at 22:20:15 PM EST


The aboriginal organizers of the Connecticut for Lieberman party seem to be rising, zombie-like, from the dustbin of history to challenge John Orman's ascendency to the chairmanship of their erstwhile vehicle for Joe Lieberman's political salvation.

Orman says he has received a "cease and desist" letter from one Stuart Korchin, who claims to be the true head of the Connecticut for Lieberman party. Orman's response: "Prove it."

Who is Korchin? Got me. From a Google search, he appears to be an AIPAC stalwart and a medical physicist who owns Radiation Protection Services. Of course, it's possible that those references are to a different Stuart Korchin and, if so, my apologies.

In any event, Orman simply asks Korchin, or any other pretender to the throne, to produce evidence of a change of party registration to CFL, the minutes of the last meeting of CFL that they chaired, and a copy of the party rules they filed with the Secretary of State.

Orman says he can produce all of the above and has been told by the Secretary of State's office that he is the sole registered member of the party.

Which raises a number of interesting questions.

BranfordBoy :: Whither CFL?
If the Liebercrats are seriously making an effort to snatch back the reins of the party, thus preventing further embarrassment to Holy Joe, they can do so simply by registering two people who could then out-vote Orman. Orman needs to guard his flank.

However, at the moment, Orman doesn't seem to have given much thought to building party membership. Over coffee and cake at Claire's Cornercopia, he explained that he sees the new CFL as a vehicle for bringing critics of Lieberman together to bitch and moan about Joe's stand on various issues (although, needless to say, those were not his exact words).

Thing is, it needs no political party to do that. In fact, such a forum exists and you're reading it. In fact, several such forums exist.

If the newly reconstituted Connecticut for Lieberman party is going to serve as a vehicle for holding Joe Lieberman and his traitorous supporters in the Democratic Party accountable for their actions, it needs to do so in a manner that only political parties can do -- namely, by fielding candidates, which entails some sort of selection process, which in turn presupposes warm bodies who are registered members of the party and who take an active interest in the party's affairs.

Certainly, having CFL candidates pop up in elections across the state would create, at the very least, some entertaining political theater. The more you turn it over in your mind, the more intriguing the notion becomes.

Orman, however, is uncertain how that might be accomplished. There is also a question in his mind as to whether CFL can run candidates for any other office besides the U.S. Senate. These are questions that Orman needs to get answered. Soon.

If Orman is going to build CFL party membership, at least to numbers that will make a recapture by Liebercrats unlikely (and after our chat he seems increasingly leaning in that direction), where will he get them?

Personally, I could not in good conscience urge any Democrat to switch. If you have enough energy to get involved in CFL, even if just to have a little fun and raise a little hell, then you have enough energy to get on your town DTC, where IMHO your hell raising will do a lot more good.

Perhaps what Orman needs is an outreach program to members of the Green Party or unaffiliated voters. At least that way, he isn't sapping the strength of the party to which, unless I am very much mistaken, he owes ultimate allegiance.

It's an intersting conundrum and it will be interesting to see how Orman and those who support him solve it. But until that happens and until CFL decides what it wants to be when it grows up, Connecticut for Lieberman 2.0 remains an interesting idea in search of a rationale.

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Stuart Korchin (0.00 / 0)
Here he is with your favorite ex-congressswoman from Connecticut.

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Which one? (0.00 / 0)
Behind Johnson, which one is he?

ok, not sure how this misplacement happened. sorry. (0.00 / 0)


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BBoy are you suggesting vanity parties have no use???? (0.00 / 0)
I *never* thought I'd hear you say that (flutter of eyelashes)!  Now, you are quite the wordsmith, and given Mr. Korchin's appearance, I was not sure if you meant "whither CFL", or "wither, CFL!" and exactly whose point of view was being indicated, etc. etc.  I feel like an MSM reporter at this moment...

But, politics mades strange bedfellows -- I think we have some CFL housekeeping to do here and a potential solution from if not an unlikely source, then let's say perhaps not the predictable source.

First, glasskat went to the SOTS office this summer and got all the names on the CFL petition (thanks for showing up, glasskat!)  here's the list: 
http://www.myleftnut...
as a reminder.

Now, I note that Mr. Korchins' enthusiasm for the project wasn't evident at that point.

As regards the apparent conflict between Dem party members  quitting the D party to join CFL and run as a CFL candidate, surely you jest.  It didn't stop Joe Lieberman, and the Dem party didn't seem willing to stop him either.  Just because you *can* be thrown out for running against a Dem candidate doesn't mean you *will* be, because, as Sharon Ferrucci "ruled,"
"The Dems Have a Big Tent" .

I think it's safe to say we can look to the CFL's first candidate for guidance.  After all, if his leadership is good enough for the Dem party officials who legitimized that candidacy and his party membership while he ran against the Dems and used the Dem party as a stage prop for an "indie" run, then take heart! Be principled, follow your heart and your head, don't let rules, regulations, or even statutes worry you one little bit.  that's what American wants, a different drummer marcher, a whistler of his own tune, and  acandidate who knows all the words to "my Way"  After all, Susan B, Dick B and Sharon F were not willing to add on "or, then again, the highway" so why change course now.

Saron F set a very nice precedent for not using running against a Dem as prima facie reason to drop you from the party rolls.  As was said at the time, "I know of no candidate that has ever been dropped from the rolls since this laws' inception in 1997."  I just watched the video of it again today on youtube.

However, John Mertens (This John Mertens http://www.mertens20... ) in a private email exchange suggested to me that he thought it *would* be possible to create party rules that allowed members of other parties to run for that party's offices.  If established in the rules, the problem with being a D or an R and running as CFL would be taken care of, as long as you didn't say D or I or R on the ballot, but merely CFL.

As to Mr. Korchins, I would just call block him and refer him to Susan B.  Why is his issue is with John Orman, rather than  Susan B.?  I think he should be starting with Susan B.  If you never registered the damn party papers to begin with and no one has joined it and you want to be called "independent democrat" and don't want the party any more, what's the issue?

The definition of legitimacy I would think would come from filing appropriate paper work in a timely way, and John Orman did so.  Lieberman's camp is on public record as saying they have no more use for the party name, so is this guy freelancing or what?

Can we stop making these "moral right to the party name" arguments" They're getting confusing and redundant- D, CFL, I-D, it gets very ambiguous.  I know some people like it that way - -but you can't have it both (or all three) ways at a certain point.


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suggested to me that he thought it *would* be possible to create party rules that allowed members of other parties to run for that party's offices.

As an example, see the Working Families Party, who primarily offers cross-endorsements to candidates (mostly D, a few R) that are strong on middle- and working-class economic issues.

In terms of party leadership, the CT Democratic Party does not require in their bylaws that officers must be registered Democrats - though one must be a Dem to have a vote at a convention or an executive committee meeting, it is possible to be an officer as a member of another party. Though it may be a loophole, the SotS doesn't ban that categorically.

Nonetheless, Orman should look to have a few more CfL'ers join the party before the "party meeting" next week if he wants to maintain control of it, if CFL doesn't have provisions to delay bylaw changes (which as I recall, it doesn't). I think it would take the form that "amendments to the bylaws must be submitted to convention attendees in writing, and no vote shall be taken on their adoption without [x] days prior notice being given to party members / delegates."

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Update (0.00 / 0)
I decided to delete a posting with Stuart Korchin's home phone number.

If anyone wants to contact Mr. Korchin, his business address and phone number are part of the public record and can be found quite easily with a Google search.

I certainly do not encourage anyone to harrass Mr. Korchin for exercising his lawful rights as a citizen.


I Just Registered CFL (4.00 / 1)
I'm leaving The Democratic Party after 43 years, including 30 years on the DTC. I think we can do some meaningful things with CFL - and it will be a lot of fun to try.

CFL Member #2


Mr Chairperson, (0.00 / 0)
I implore you to update your party's website with more current information.

Join the Party. People are hard at work doing the research to learn how you too can become a member of the Connecticut for Lieberman Party. Check back soon for more information!

 

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Neal Fink (0.00 / 0)
It's his website.

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With your newfound pull... (0.00 / 0)
I'm sure you can do more.

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Are you still running for State Central Chair? (0.00 / 0)
Note that mattw says:
In terms of party leadership, the CT Democratic Party does not require in their bylaws that officers must be registered Democrats - though one must be a Dem to have a vote at a convention or an executive committee meeting, it is possible to be an officer as a member of another party. Though it may be a loophole, the SotS doesn't ban that categorically.

It would certainly seem you could meet both CFL's and the Dem party's needs by running for chair.


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That's what wonderful about democracy (0.00 / 0)
Parties evolve based on a moral concept. Ideas are added or tossed, and more people become involved. The party grows or waxes as it keeps its members integrated and empowered.

Big eaters, like todays republicans, will die the death of the dinosaur Super Crocodile.


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