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Two Surrogates Take On Schlesinger

by: BranfordBoy

Tue Oct 31, 2006 at 22:54:31 PM EST


The fourth debate of the campaign took place at Yale tonight. Well, sorta.

The Yale Daily News Political Union hosted a sparsely attended debate between the three candidates, but only one was there, Alan Schlesinger. Lanny Davis stood in for Joe Lieberman, with Irv Stolberg doing the same for Ned Lamont.

It was, as all good political debates must be these days, kinda boring, except for the policy wonks. At its best, the three panelists came across like Borscht Belt comics with table manners. Most of the time they came across as the highly intelligent, polite, and committed partisans they are. They all showed the sincerest respect for each other and, as they say in showbiz, when you can fake that you've got it made. At its worst (and this was mercifully brief), the conversation descended to petty remarks about "personal shots." When  it was over, I wanted to go to the nearest bar for my own personal shot.

Matt Stoller was there (and asked a profound question that I found profoundly incomprehensible), so I will direct you to MyDD for the "official" version of the night's conversation. I suspect the Yale Daily will have something up tomorrow. Also, TrueBlueCT was running video in the back of the room, so maybe there'll be video as well. I will content myself with a few inane and snarky remarks.

BranfordBoy :: Two Surrogates Take On Schlesinger
FULL DISCLOSURE: Lanny Davis and I lit farts discussed the great philosophers together when we were at Yale and I hold a warm and fuzzy place for him in my heart.

Lanny Davis, by and large, did a nice lawyerly job standing in for his old friend (and current client?) Joe Lieberman. Like the accomplished lawyer that he is, he placed great importance on "facts" and semantic nuance. ("You claim my client was sh*t-faced drunk and yet you admit you never actually observed sh*t on his face!")

Lanny's unfamiliarity with the ins and outs of the race showed, as when he insisted that Joe had never said that he hadn't given the congressional races much thought, when everyone in the room knew that the remark had been widely reported and not challenged by the Lieberman camp.

More tellingly, he did such a good job of defending Joe from the charge that he is George Bush's butt boy, that those lucky enough to be in the room got a whole litany of reasons why Republicans, conservatives, and a wide swath of independents shouldn't vote for Joe.

Still, it was a pleasure to have that whiny drone replaced by the Ciceronean exactitude of a practiced advocate. (Lanny Davis, you will remember, was the guy trotted out to speak in Bill Clinton's defense when he was thigh-deep in the Lewinsky embroglio and he acquitted himself admirably. Whatever it was they paid him for that gig, it wasn't enough. I trust he's now getting his fair share of Joe's slush fund although, knowing Lanny, he just might be doing it for auld lang syne.)

Irv Stolberg, standing in for Ned Lamont, was far and away the most passionate of the three. In fact, he brought to the proceedings some of the fire in the belly that a few folks wish they saw more of in Ned. Stolberg, who had a 22 year history in the Connecticut House and who now works with the United Nations Association, is a long-time friend of Joe's and so made a good choice as Ned's surrogate. There was something delicious about the way he prefaced some of his sharpest stiletto stabs with fulsome praise of the "dear friend" he has known all these years. Marc Antony couldn't have done it better, and Antony had a great ghost writer

His enthusiasm got the best of him at times, as when he suggested that Dick Cheney should go to prison -- a consummation devoutly to be wished to be sure, but one which Lamont has said he wouldn't seek. But most of the time he was dead on the money. One of his best moments came when a fresh-faced Lieberman campaign worker (whose secret identity was revealed by the debate moderators) asked what he thought was a great a gotcha question about Ned's contradictory (to this nitwit, at least) championing of union workers and global trade. Stolberg gave a ringing response that Lieberman surrogate Davis wholeheartedly agreed with, chapter and verse. Score another one for Team Lamont.

He returned again and again to the war and the criminality of so much of what the Bush administration has been doing to the country. But whatever the topic he spoke with the kind of fervor that bubbles up from righteous anger. Hey, when's he running for something again?

Once again, I am somewhat abashed to report, Alan Schlesinger stole the show. He wasn't as flamboyant this time out (maybe sitting calms him), but he had some of the best lines and he has this disarming ability to speak as if what's coming out of his mouth (odd as some of it may be) exists somewhere in his brain as opposed to on those three by five cards your high school debate coach told you the always have at hand.

There seemed to be a cadre of Young Republicans in the audience and they heartily approved of his defense of the Bush tax cuts. On the other hand, the Lamont supporters ate up his characterization of Joe Lieberman as a shifty politician who says one thing and votes another.

Afterwards, he claimed his internal campaign polls show his numbers at 25% and trending up, taking votes from both Lamont and Lieberman.

Kudos to the News PU for pulling off a debate with at least twice the content of the televised ones. It's amazing how much policy can be discussed when you don't have blow-dried twits like Mark Davis asking the questions.

When I left, Ctkeith was talking to Lanny Davis. God, I hope Lanny survived.

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Snarkiness filled the air (0.00 / 0)
Good to hear the rhetoric made for a pseudo-real debate.
Did Irv mention he pondered the run himself - BN (Before Ned)?  Very entertainig reporting.  GOP Bulldongs must have been thrilled to have Schlesinger up close and personal. 

He survived (0.00 / 0)
but it still amazes me how easily Lanny can Lie.

I wonder if Lanny's mom is proud of having a son famous only because of his work defending Clintons penis?


Forget the MSM on debates and get substantive staffing (0.00 / 0)
BBoy said,"Kudos to the News for pulling off a debate with at least twice the content of the televised ones. It's amazing how much policy can be discussed when you don't have blow-dried twits like Mark Davis asking the questions."

No sh*t.  That last debate was an embarrassment.  This is about the people and the people's issues and their right to know, and no one -- no maget in the way of it with fluff, process questions and gotcha.

New rules for participating in debates: no ad hominem attacks and lost points if you indulge in name calling or talk overtime, answer the question that is asked - points off for substituting talking points, questions on substantive issues, not "gotcha" questions, real live debate judging and real live experts asking the questions.  There has to be security in the hall and the understanding that disruptors will be removed immediately.  Then provide areas outside the debate for people who have points of view they would like to call attention to or carry placards about.

People need to have the novel experience of a meaningful dialogue on the issues. It's hard to believe they'd put up with spin if this *actually* happened.


Here's Stoller's report (0.00 / 0)
http://www.mydd.com/...

Nothing in the YDN so far.


 
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