Orman's After Lieberman, Too

Orman on the radio (4.00 / 1)

Colin McEnroe interviewed Prof John Orman (mp3 audio) about his challenge to Lieberman's presence on the ballot with the Secretary of State's office.  He argues that Lieberman created a "fake" political party - that he has no real intention of forming a party with rules and a platform.

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by: mikect @ Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 00:38:43 AM UTC

Lay off Our GOD JOE (4.00 / 2)

Kenny D might have taken a path today towards a false prophet but we memebers of CT for Lieberman Party Know who the REAL GOD IS.

When  Ct for Lieberman elect officers,I want to be EMPEROR FOR LIFE just like Joes idol Kim Jung IL.

If I put Joe Liebermans Portrait on every building,Bridge and overpass in Ct Can I be Emperor Joe,PLEEEEEEESE.

Kenny D left For Jesus but I promise I'll worship you and only You.Just give me the chance JOE.I LOVE AND WORSHIP YOU JOE,Don't Let that Gerstein and Sheery Brown Chick fool you Joe they don't Worship you Like you Want.Only Marcia,Hadassah and ME understand that you're not a mortal man.

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by: ctkeith @ Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 01:29:37 AM UTC

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Dan Gerstein: Idiot (4.00 / 2)

Gerstein took issue with Orman's claim that Lieberman is wants "a do-over," bending the rules so he can run twice for the same race.

"It's not a do-over," Gerstein said. "It's just like saying that Ned Lamont got a do-over after he lost the convention."

Lamont was able to primary Lieberman because he received more than 15 percent of the vote at the May 20 convention.

Hey Dan,

Lamont won the right to appear to contest the Democratic primary with Lieberman.

Joe Lieberman lost the primary and is slipping through on a loophole in the system.

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by: Scarce @ Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 00:42:23 AM UTC

Win Lose at Convention (3.00 / 1)

Also I'm thinking Joe LOST at the Convention, by not getting >85% support of Democrats!

Failed to Clinch at the Convention
Lost in the Primary
Joe now wants a Do-Over...
oh yea, like the 2004 national ticket race was a Do-Over of 2000 loss!

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by: JoesGoingDown @ Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 02:53:00 AM UTC

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SEEC responds (4.00 / 1)

The SEEC's director speaks on this challenge:

The other complaint was made to the State Elections Enforcement Commission claiming that Lieberman is not starting a real political party and therefore should be removed from the ballot.

The Executive Director says that's not going to happen, that Lieberman has every legal right to petition his way on to the ballot.

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by: mikect @ Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 00:46:22 AM UTC

issue (4.00 / 6)

well, of course, joe has "every legal right" to petition his way onto the ballot--but he should be honest and petition as an independent candidate (eight or ninth place on the ballot) and not create a bogus new party for the sole purpose of moving up a few lines on the ballot to the fifth spot.

That's the issue. CT for Lieberman isn't a real party. It's a facade whereby Joe can secure a higher spot on the ballot.

Has anyone seen the CT for Lieberman platform anywhere? What are the party rules?

"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."--James Madison

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by: sufi @ Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 01:19:45 AM UTC

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Lieberman for Lieberman Party (4.00 / 2)

I saw the list of 25 or 30 founders.  Let's republish that with what issue positions they are known for.  I can name opposition to gay marraige and the Connecticut Civil Union law for one and pro school vouchers for another.

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by: JoesGoingDown @ Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 02:55:47 AM UTC

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freudian slip (0.00 / 0)

in my comment above, I wrote that Joe "should be honest and petition as an independent candidate". I meant to write that Joe "should be honest and petition as an individual candidate".

it appears that the mainstream media attempt to brainwash readers into believing that Joe is an independent candidate negatively impacted my subconscious...so I have to make amends.

He ought to run as an individual candidate instead of creating phony party.

Is there a way we can find out what the party rules are for the CT for Lieberman party? Is that public info?

"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."--James Madison

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by: sufi @ Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 14:19:00 PM UTC

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does Joe have the right (3.50 / 2)

to use 'Captive Audiences" to get signatures for is petitions.Thats what happened at Foxwoods.People were put in a Room and their Bosses "asked" them if they would like to sign a petition after they were told the casino was supporting Lieberman.

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by: ctkeith @ Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 01:48:38 AM UTC

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I have copies of all the CT of Lieberman petitions for Simsbury (3.50 / 2)

There are 84 pages with names from Simsbury, should these be posted?  They are public documents once the town clerk certified them.  Some have one or two signatures ... some have lots. 

I keep wondering who signed these petitions and what they were told when they were asked to sign.

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by: wayne @ Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 03:17:17 AM UTC

Thats being worked on I believe (3.50 / 2)

But if their are any names you recognize as eleced Dems I would love to see those and make that info public.

I wonder if James Amann signed one of those.

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by: ctkeith @ Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 04:24:37 AM UTC

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Why does Ken Dixon piss me off? (0.00 / 0)

Today's CT Post:

Lieberman charged that supporters of Ned Lamont, the Greenwich businessman who won the Aug. 8 Democratic Senate primary, were behind the effort to embarrass the three-term senator in his New Haven hometown.

Ken, where is the Lamont rebuttal?

Also, a Fairfield University professor who unsuccessfully challenged Lieberman's simultaneous run for the Senate and vice president in 2000 filed a complaint Monday in an attempt to kill the senator's run as an independent.
State election officials said it is unlikely that professor John M. Orman will succeed in the attempt to terminate Lieberman's petitioning candidacy.

Ken, honey, the senator is not running as an independent, as you noted IN YOUR OWN ARTICLE! I've searched Google news for any names of these 'unnamed' officials - nothing, nada. Do you just make this sh## up?

Lamont said the president's plan to stay away from Connecticut this election season helps Lieberman, who backed Bush on pursuing the war in Iraq but in recent days has tried to position himself as opposing the current state of the conflict.

Ken, the President has a 38% approval rating. Tell me again how this would help him?

This is what Lamont actually said:

"It seems like a de facto endorsement of Senator Lieberman to me, yes," Lamont told reporters in the state Capitol parking lot.

Does anyone see the word 'help' there? Is it me, or is this guy as dumb as a rock?

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by: Sue @ Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 13:39:19 PM UTC

OK, so I was wrong (0.00 / 0)

on that last point. But I still don't like the guy.

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by: Sue @ Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 13:56:13 PM UTC

Joe off the ballot? (0.00 / 0)

If Joe were the man of principle he always says he is, he would not be trying to get on a ballot, period.  He would do what Ned said he would do, i.e. support the winner of the Primary!

So if he wants to get on a ballot, then let him do it ethically.  Instead of trying to call himself an Independent Democrat or some rot like that, let him call himself what he is !  A Party of One.  No Platform, no adjenda, no vision.  Just a silly made up egotistical name !

Has everyone seen the 2 polls out today, btw?

Lamont within 2 points !  Lamont blog has it up.

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by: PamB @ Tue Aug 22, 2006 at 22:18:51 PM UTC