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Lies, Damn Lies, and Reporting on Polling

by: Gabe

Tue Sep 14, 2010 at 09:30:48 AM EDT


( - promoted by Jon Kantrowitz)

LAST UPDATE:

As Scarce pointed out below, the NYT's polling expert, Nate Silver, makes it clear that today's Q-Poll showed no momentum:

By analyzing polling from firms that have released both registered voter and likely voter results, we have found a gap between the two of about 4 points, on average, favoring the Republican. Therefore, a registered voter poll that shows an 8-point lead for the Republican is in fact treated by our model as showing the equivalent of a 12-point lead.

Now, let's look again at those two polls in Connecticut. Quinnipiac's August poll gave Mr. Blumenthal a 10-point lead among registered voters; their poll this morning gave him a 6-point lead among likely voters. In other words, we see a 4-point shift in the Republican candidate's favor - exactly what we should have expected based our previous analysis of likely voter polls.

But the shift reflects the change in methodology: it provides no evidence that the race is tightening.

And from the credit where credit is due file, Capitol Watch's Daniella Altimari makes good on her previous post with a correction:

But I failed to make an important distinction: This morning's survey included likely voters, while past Q polls included registered voters. They are, according to Q poll Director Doug Schwartz, apples and oranges.
...
In other words, comparisons to previous polls of registered voters are pointless.

Had she said, apples and Buicks, I would have put it on a t-shirt...

Video courtesy of CTNewsJunkie

Quinnipiac released a new Senate poll this morning, showing Blumenthal leading McMahon 51-46 among likely voters (the first time a likely voter model has been employed for this race) and the press reaction has been interesting:

CTCapitolReport has a screaming headline that, "MCMAHON CUTS IT TO 6," the CTPost writes that, "Republican Linda McMahon has virtually erased a once-daunting lead held by Democrat Richard Blumenthal, closing to within 6 points in their U.S. Senate race," and the Courant/Fox61 (no link) text alert I got this morning declares, "Q-Poll shows Blumenthal's lead over McMahon shrinking."  Even the CTMirror, which has displayed in the past that they actually get it, writes that the race "continues to tighten."

UPDATE: Capitol Watch wades in, "Republican Linda McMahon continues to slice into Democrat Richard Blumenthal's once overwhelming lead in the U.S. Senate race."  CW then doubles down, "McMahon has been steadily chipping away at Blumenthal's popularity for months. In the March 17 Q poll, he trounced her by a 2-1 margin; in May, immediately after the controversy over his Vietnam war misstatements, Blumenthal still led by 27 percentage points. By August, McMahon was within 10 and now she has cut his lead to 6."  Sigh.

UPDATE: CTNewsJunkie shows how easy it is to report on something like this accurately:

The first Quinnipiac University poll of the general election shows Democrat Richard Blumenthal leading Republican Linda McMahon by six points amongst likely voters in the race for the U.S. Senate.

A Quinnipiac University poll in August showed Blumenthal leading McMahon by 10 points, but Poll Director Doug Schwartz cautioned about comparing the two polls since today's includes likely voters and previous polls screened for registered voters.

See guys?  Not that hard!

So does the race continue to tighten?  I don't know!  But I do know that this poll, despite the media reports to the contrary, doesn't continue to show anything (if this starts to sound familiar, it should).

As Doug Schwartz makes pretty clear in the memo that goes along with this poll, "This is the independent Quinnipiac (KWIN-uh-pe- ack) University's first general election likely voter survey in Connecticut in this election cycle and can not be compared to earlier surveys of registered voters." (emphasis mine)

So as Spazeboy ably made clear almost exactly 2 months ago, using this poll to show a "shrinking lead" or a "tightening race" is like comparing apples to pineapples.  Or Buicks.  Or spaceships.

Just to clarify, I'm not making an argument either way on whether this race is tightening or not tightening.  Just that this poll, the first of its kind to switch from a Registered Voter model to a Likely Voter model (hat tip to CTBob for the link), doesn't actually show what the media is trying to say that it shows.

What is interesting about the poll, and that I haven't seen reported yet, is the insight it gives into what Quinnipiac expects the likely voter model to look like.  

Gabe :: Lies, Damn Lies, and Reporting on Polling
Remember, the voter registration ratio in Connecticut (as of October 2009) is very roughly 38:19:43 (D:R:U), and in 2006, the last GOV/SEN election, the actual turnout was roughly 38:26:36 (D:R:U).

Using the poll's results that Bluemnthal leads among Democrats 87-10, McMahon leads among Republicans 91-9, and Unaffiliateds are fairly evenly split with Blumenthal getting 47 and McMahon 46, its easy to roughly figure out what the poll would find if the likely voter screen reflected either the registration ratio or the 2002 turnout ratio:

Registration:

Blumenthal 57% - McMahon 43%

2006 Turnout:

Blumenthal 54% - McMahon 46%

Still too close for comfort, but a little better.

From the back of my napkin, you can back into the likely voter ratio that Quinnipiac used to get a result of 51-45 (in addition to backing into things like this being horribly imprecise, Quinnipiac obviously has undecided voters and what I did above doesn't really, so add a grain of salt to the pile you already have collected):

very roughly - 32:28:40 (D:R:U)

Given their registration advantage in the state, its pretty clear that Ds and Rs showing up on election day in roughly equal numbers would be a pretty big GOTV disaster for the Dems - but even at those disastrous levels, it still might not be enough to put McMahon over the top.

Either way, the election will come down to the ability of Democrats to get out their voters, despite a sizable gap in enthusiasm.  

Shorter me: GOTV.

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Quinnipiac's last poll was Blumenthal 50, McMahon 40 (4.00 / 1)
And of registered voters. So one way to look at this is no real movement in the past six weeks, assuming a higher turnout among Republicans as expected.

Another 'glass half full' view of this is that for all McMahon's spending, and Blumenthal's less than aggressive campaign (to put it charitably), he is leading.

But...

The trend doesn't differentiate between "likely" and "registered" voters so on sites like RealClearPolitics and Pollster.com it will appear McMahon is closing on Blumenthal.

And of course the mostly lazy Connecticut media probably won't bother to differentiate. So Blumenthal now has to contend with that as well.

As more than one pundit has said, the question of whether Richard Blumenthal can throw a punch remains to be answered.

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Quinnipiac Poll (7/28-8/2)

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/x129...


Blumenthal's favorables still high (0.00 / 0)
Blumenthal 55/39, from 57/30 in their last poll, and 61/29 earlier this year.

McMahon 45/41, from 43/47, and 43/37 earlier.

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Those aren't strong enough numbers on their own to defeat Blumenthal. And only 39% think Linda McMahon has the right kind of experience to be a U.S. Senator, similar to Ned Lamont four years ago. 72% think Blumenthal does.

Based on these numbers alone I suspect the race is not as close as Quinnipiac says it is.


Nate Silver "refudiates" the poll tightening meme in CT (0.00 / 0)
...before the Mark Davis' of the media get a hold of it and run wild with irrational exuberance.

Now, let's look again at those two polls in Connecticut. Quinnipiac's August poll gave Mr. Blumenthal a 10-point lead among registered voters; their poll this morning gave him a 6-point lead among likely voters. In other words, we see a 4-point shift in the Republican candidate's favor - exactly what we should have expected based our previous analysis of likely voter polls.

But the shift reflects the change in methodology: it provides no evidence that the race is tightening.

As it happens, there is a convenient counter-example in the form of Rasmussen Reports polling. Rasmussen also surveyed the Connecticut race last week, and they had also done so in August. Both polls were conducted among likely voters, so an apples-to-apples comparison is more appropriate.

But Rasmussen shows no tightening in the race; their August poll had given Mr. Blumenthal a 7-point lead; now, they show him with a 9-point lead. Since the sample size on both polls was fairly small, we should probably not make much of the modest movement in Mr. Blumenthal's direction - but, obviously, there is also no trend toward Ms. McMahon.

This is something to be mindful of as other pollsters switch from registered voter to likely voter models, as tends to occur this time of year. If a poll shows strong numbers for the Republicans among likely voters, that is - unambiguously - good news for them. But it may not reflect further "tightening" or "momentum" toward the Republican, if the comparison point is with a poll of registered voters.

http://fivethirtyeight.blogs.n...


But many disturbing numbers in this poll other than the top line (0.00 / 0)

First, over half of all voters, and with little variation between R, D, and I, say that they will vote first on the economy.  With the effects of the stimulus weakening, and still high unemployment, that's a bad sign for us.

Second, and incredibly, Linda McMahon holds a lead on the question of who they think is "honest and trustworthy".  Can you believe that?  

Third, the gap on the question of whether they "share your values" between Blumenthal and McMahon is not big.  That's incredible when you consider that McMahon has been peddling violent pornography to children all her life.  Yep, she sure shares my values.  Straight up.

Next, 37% of all voters say that Blumenthal's "Vietnam" service claim issue makes them less likely to vote for him.  That is an enormous number.

And most troubling is that by a margin of one percent Connecticut voters say they would like to see Republicans control the Senate next year.  

Not pretty.


Those "disturbing" numbers you cite (0.00 / 0)
Tell you more about the sample used. 37% of the Republicans self-identified as Teabaggers Tea Party supporters.

[ Parent ]
Possibly (0.00 / 0)
First, over half of all voters, and with little variation between R, D, and I, say that they will vote first on the economy.  With the effects of the stimulus weakening, and still high unemployment, that's a bad sign for us.

But the problem is the stimulus was not big enough. And the Republican solution is going back to the Bush ways that caused the problem. So the problem is really voter rationality and knowledge.

because Connecticut voters count: http://www.CTVotersCount.org


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"The Connecticut Senate race tightens (or does it?)" (0.00 / 0)
Chris Cillizza at the Washington Post also looks at these numbers with some skepticism. And he goes on to mention a DSCC internal poll that has Blumenthal up 15.

National Democrats -- aware of the danger of another Senate seat being added to an already wide playing field -- quickly released internal numbers that suggested the Quinnipiac poll was an outlier.

In a survey conducted by Dave Beattie for the Democratic Senatorial Campaign Committee, Blumenthal led McMahon 54 percent to 39 percent. The atmospheric numbers were also far better for Democrats in their internal poll with President Obama at 55 percent on the job approval question. (There are also internal Blumenthal numbers being whispered about that put their candidate up by 20 points.)

The truth of the race, as almost always, likely lies somewhere between the Q poll and the DSCC numbers.



 
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