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The Nightmare Scenario

by: Russell's 10

Wed Aug 04, 2010 at 10:01:23 AM EDT


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Governor Rell has vetoed the legislature's attempt to bring Connecticut's public campaign financing law into compliance with a recently-issued order from the US Supreme Court.  That order arose in an Arizona case, and the Court essentially said you can't have public campaign grants designed to match the spending of other candidates (if I understand it correctly).  The Connecticut legislature decided to bring our plan into compliance by raising the initial grants to candidates.  In  the case of governor -- from $3 million to $6 million.  They also changed the restrictions on lobbyist contributions to candidates, but that's not my immediate concern.  I'm worried about a scenario under which Rell's veto stands, the matching grants are disallowed in a court, and the Democratic nominee for governor has half the funding he was expecting, finding himself at a 3- or 4-to-1 spending disadvantage in the general election.

After Tuesday's primary, we will know the nominees of each party for governor.  I do not think a Fedele win is very likely on the Republican side; Tom Foley will be the GOP nominee.  I admit that I have a very poor read on the horse race on our side.  I am assuming Ned Lamont is still leading, but I haven't seen any valid polls lately, so I have a hard time assessing changes in the race as the election approaches.  Dan Malloy could very well pull out a late rally win.  And if he does, I think we face the potential for a very, very bad fall campaign.

If Rell's veto is not overridden, Malloy would be campaigning in the general on $3 million.  I believe Foley will spend many multiples of that.  If Malloy applies for a matching grant, Foley will sue.  He already sued to block the grant to his primary opponent, a guy he was beating by 25 or 35 points at the time.  Of course he will sue Malloy, who would be well ahead of Foley on August 11 if both are the nominees.  I don't see how the court ignores the US Supreme Court's order in the Arizona case.  Maybe there is some significant difference between their law and ours, but from what I've read it seems clear that there will be no matching grant.  From WTNH's story on the topic: "If Democrat Dan Malloy wins their primary and faces millionaire Tom Foley in the final election, Malloy won't get any extra public funds to be competitive."

How likely is an override?  A post here a few days ago makes the case that it is pretty unlikely.  In the House, 75 Democrats (and no Republicans) voted for the bill.  Twenty-one were absent.  Let's say all 21 now vote for the override.  You'd have 96 votes.  That falls six short.  So you need six of the eighteen Democratic "no" votes to switch (and run the table on all 21 who didn't vote originally), assuming no Republican votes "yes" to double Malloy's campaign funding.  

So here's the nightmare scenario:  The legislature can't override the veto.  Malloy and Foley prevail in the primaries.  Foley sues Malloy to block the matching grant.  Malloy's strategy goes out the window, because he now has half the money he was planning on.  Foley can define Malloy with ads questioning Stamford's success and misrepresenting any little thing in Malloy's lengthy public record.  Our governor candidate can't fund his own Get Out the Vote effort statewide.  Meanwhile, Linda McMahon is funding one.  An electorate already inclined to vote Republican for governor shows up and does so again, and we have Governor Foley.  Not incidentally, those voters don't vote for Himes, Courtney or Murphy while they're there.

This whole business of arguing over whether public campaign financing SHOULD be able to offset independent expenditures is not really important (in my opinion) now.  Yes, it is an important issue.  But not now.  We have twelve weeks to elect a new governor.  This is not the time for Democrats to step forward and argue that because money was appropriated, we should spend it (on our candidate, by the way).  I don't get the sense that argument will move a lot of voters our way.  

I have yet to see really compelling differences between Lamont and Malloy on policy.  Transportation, education, taxation and budgeting, social services, etc... they are much more alike than different.  I really think that even if you're 100% happy with candidate X, candidate Y should make you at least 88% happy, too.  OK, now get out the knives and fight it out in the comments.  But I suggest the differences between Malloy and Lamont are really about style and past experience, not proposed policy.  And style and past experience matter somewhat, but either of these men would be far, far better for the state than Governor Foley, wouldn't they?

I see three cases where the nightmare scenario doesn't come to pass: 1) Fedele is the GOP nominee 2) The legislature overrides the veto or 3) Lamont is our nominee.  Items 1) and 2) don't seem likely.  Only 3) is within our power.  We haven't won a gubernatorial election in twenty-four years.  What do you say we end that streak now and vote for Lamont.

cross-posted with some minor changes from newcanaandems.info

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Please, if you care about clean elections in Connecticut (4.00 / 2)
Whether or not you are a Malloy supporter, a Lamont supporter, A Foley supporter or support a write in of Mike Rowe for Governor - consider calling your legislator and asking him or her to vote for the veto over ride of SB551, An Act Concerning Clean Elections.

This is a really important issue, which both Democratic candidates for Governor support (using the program or not).

Please consider some activism on this issue.


Who voted how (0.00 / 0)
This was in the post a few days ago, but here it is again.  Look up who voted or abstained.  If your legislator is on there as a No or Did Not Vote, be extra-sure to call.

http://cga.ct.gov/2010/VOTE/H/...

I'm pretty sure the Senate vote was party-line (maybe 1 Dem said No) but has the override margin.   The House seems to be where the fight is.


[ Parent ]
Kim (0.00 / 0)
Who do you think are the best prospects to flip?  

–7.25 / –7.28 | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tw...

[ Parent ]
Mostly we need to get folks in who were on vacation (4.00 / 1)
It looks like the House is going in to over ride on August 13th.  So we have time to call next week after primary fever is over.  I would say concentrate on the folks who were absent and the Dems who voted no.  If anyone wants to call me, I'd be happy to talk more about it, and we are definitely look for people to come to our office to help phonebank.

The Senate is going in this afternoon.


[ Parent ]
Now that Dan and his crew (4.00 / 3)
... are saying that Ned Lamont and Tom Foley are equivalent (see saramerica's post), I imagine this would fall on deaf ears. Your nightmare scenario is Foley winning. The Malloy campaign's nightmare scenario is Lamont winning. I think that shows something of a lack of perspective, but what do I know?

Malloy has actually spent more on the primary to date than he'll have in the general, but with 2.5-5x the number of people to communicate with. I had asked the Malloy bloggers to grapple with this concept before the convention, but nobody was willing to take it up.

–7.25 / –7.28 | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tw...


Malloy has about $200,000 left (0.00 / 0)
..as near as I can tell from his financial report.

Dan Malloy for Governor - financial report pdf


[ Parent ]
Foley cannot sue again under the same legal theories (0.00 / 0)
 Mr Russell's 10....Foley cannot resue  anyone under  the same losing theories of before.He  would be subject to a quick dismissal, a possible fine and  a finding  for contempt.

You are correct Russell's 10 (0.00 / 0)
 Ive given  neither candidate any money and I will make a decision on whom to vote for  when i reach the polls.

To my mind  both Malloy and  Lamont are moderate candidates, though both have aspects I like.

I did like Malloy's  position that he  would fight  for a progressive income tax( lamont refused  to state a position)  and I did like Lamonts position on reviving education in ct. ( malloy paid less attention to the issue)


Who would be the best governor? (4.00 / 1)
Regardless of the campaign ad tactics of the two dem campaigns, the democratic voter must decide which would be the best governor.  Is the CEO experience approach what you want in Hartford or do you want a governor that knows how the political and bureaucratic system works and will be able to negotiate with both the entrenched bureaucrats, the unions, and the legislature for the best solutions.  That is the stark choice.  I have to admit the release from Dan's campaign after the republican debate was a not the best in the world.  However, the campaign should rise and fall on the totality of the work.  Most folks on this blog seem to believe that the CEO approach to government will be the best solution to the state's problems or regardless of the approach, the feel that Lamont has the dollars to self fund against another self funder on the other side.  Foley may spend over $20 million but that does not mean he cannot be beaten by $3 million artfully spent.  So - Look at the two candidates and decide which philosophy you want in the governor's mansion and vote accordingly.  My vote goes to the experienced public servant who knows how to establish a climate for growth as opposed to the CEO who is used to getting his way because he is the CEO.  But I suspect most of you already figured that out.

Public Servant Dan Malloy makes promises in exchange for support (4.00 / 1)
so he's not clean by a longshot, nor does he have the character to lead this state.

Character has become an issue, thanks to Malloy willing to lie about Lamont and use a negative, divisive attack in the hopes of pulling Lamont down so he can have a chance to eke out a win.  That kind of behavior is what got Connecticut to this point in its history.


[ Parent ]
Nah (0.00 / 0)
I was born in Stamford, and have lived in the area most of my life. I can't say I've been impressed with the outcomes that have been achieved there, entirely apart from the political style of Malloy and his supporters.

I am commenting because you wrote that "My vote goes to the experienced public servant who knows how to establish a climate for growth." Of course, I don't know what's in Dan Malloy's head, but observing what he knows from what he has done, it must be said that he most certainly did not create a climate for growth in Stamford. It did worse -- tragically worse, in most cases -- than almost every other town in the state, worse than its neighbors, and worse than the state as a whole.

I chose to go after the jobs claims, but left alone the education, transportation, and affordable housing claims -- but they are on equally shaky ground.

The funding issue (how many mailers have you gotten to date? Now divide that by three, that's what you'll get in the general) is your concern, and if it doesn't bother you, then no worries. A lot of people who have worked on campaigns (myself included) see them as basically a matter of mechanics -- this many points, that many mail hits; that many doors, this many dials. That's why Malloy didn't stop fundraising even when he had 50X the funds of the challenger in his first re-election campaign: a massive disparity in resources secures an advantage in persuasion and mobilization. The 2006 gubernatorial race featured a longtime civil servant with profound ideas in a strongly progressive year, and he got out 1.5 mailers and was destroyed.

If you believe instead that campaigns are driven by an inherent truth of some kind that is already present in and shared by the candidates and the voters, then I of course wish you well in your beliefs.  

–7.25 / –7.28 | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tw...


[ Parent ]
character... and winning the General (0.00 / 0)
means nothing to you?

Regardless of the campaign ad tactics of the two dem campaigns, the democratic voter must decide which would be the best governor.

I didn't (and still don't) have a horse in this race. But I do have a preference based on what I have seen from the candidates.

1) One candidate went negative from the start and has published lies and half-truths that have been debunked prior to his running with them as facts
2) One candidate has negative and highly damaging baggage that will be used against him in the General that has not been used against him to date in public.
3) One candidate does not have the financial ability to compete on a level playing field.
4) One candidate has been making spending promises for just about every possible constituency when the State is in a deep hole and unlike the Federal Government, can not deficit finance its way into prosperity.

Now, the worst thing you can say about the "other" candidate is that he has no experience working in government, only private enterprise. That's the worst of it all. He has not gone negative with lies and half-truths that have been debunked. He doesn't have any damaging baggage that can be used against him in the General. He has the financial ability to level the playing field in the General and he has not over promised with the electorate.

For me personally, #1 is a very big issue and if I were going to vote in the CT election, that would be a major deciding factor. For many others, including one union, #3 was a big issue. #2 has been talked about on here and the sad fact is that whomever the GOP candidate is, it will be fodder for their advertisements. With deep pockets, expect to hear about it a great deal. #4 is a big turn off or many people since, well, they understand that there is no money. That any savings that can be accumulated initially from cutting waste will be used to offset the deficit first. That any changes in tax law, as passed by the legislature, will be used to first offset deficits before new spending. Thus all the promises in #4 become unrealistic pandering to special interest groups for their votes. And anyone who adds the numbers up will realize that it's fiction.

However, the campaign should rise and fall on the totality of the work.

Well the above lists four major points. Three are character, one is finances. Feel free to detail why character doesn't matter since three of the points are related to that.

My vote goes to the experienced public servant who knows how to establish a climate for growth as opposed to the CEO who is used to getting his way because he is the CEO.  

My vote, if I had one, would go to the Democrat most likely able to take the General. It also happens to be the one who has shown the better character and has the financial ability to put up a fight. I want a Democrat to win. The better man, in my never humble opinion, to do that based on the above factors is Lamont.

Can I be wrong? Dukakus, Gore, Dean, Edwards, "No on 8" (although we just won that in the courts today!). Yep, I can be wrong. But in this case I don't think so. There are far more negatives on one side than on the other.

The question is not what you are, we already determined that, we are now negotiating price.
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[ Parent ]
curiously (0.00 / 0)
This was asked by Quinnipiac:

4DEM. Which of the following is most important to you in deciding whom to support in the Democratic primary for Governor - a candidate's personality and character, a candidate's positions on key issues, a candidate's experience and qualifications or a candidate's ability to win the general election in November?
                    LIKELY DEM PRIMARY VOTERS
                    Tot    Men    Wom
Personality           7%     8%     7%
Pos on issues        50     45     54
Experience           30     33     28
Ability to win        9     10      8
DK/NA                 4      4      3


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[ Parent ]
In other news (0.00 / 0)
House not returning to session until after 8/10:
http://ctmirror.org/story/7130...

I don't know what basis there was for saying this:

Sen. Gayle Slossberg, co-chairwoman of the General Administration and Elections Committee, said if certain issues included in the bill aren't addressed by Aug. 11 the "whole thing crumbles."

... but if true, the whole program is about to crumble.  

–7.25 / –7.28 | http://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/tw...


Ou sont les trolls d'antan? (0.00 / 0)
The trouble with troll rating posts (and thus consigning them to oblivion) is that the responses disappear along with them.

I simply could not let this comment by Bob Adams be consigned to the dustbin of history.

Congrats on your first post

Maybe if you'd spoken up earlier, you might have helped temper the discussion.  

By simply lurking and not contributing anything at all since you joined in February, and THEN boldly saying you've never seen such behavior so you're leaving...

...well, you're not really saying anything useful at all.

You can clutch your pearls and grab at the curtains to keep from swooning all you want, but if you want the right to complain here, you should fucking well earn it!

Connecticut Bob

I think I may have to clutch my pearls and grab at the curtains!


Dang it, (0.00 / 0)
now I have to go to the bank and get my pearls out of the vault. Cause I wanna get in on this pearl-clutching, curtain-grabbing action too! Why should Mad177 and my teenager get to have all the fun being Drama Queens?!  

[ Parent ]
Thanks, pal! (4.00 / 2)
I was proud of myself for that one. Any time I can work verbs like "swooning" and "fucking" into the same sentence, I know I'm crafting a true masterpiece! ;)

Connecticut Bob

[ Parent ]
The Senate passed the Over ride!!! (4.00 / 1)
Please tell your State Rep to attend the over ride session next Friday and vote to over ride!

 
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