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Post-Convention Open Thread

by: BranfordBoy

Sun May 21, 2006 at 09:12:26 AM EDT


Let's get it all out in the open.
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Heh, (0.00 / 0)
oh BranfordBoy, you humor me far too much. I assume everyone has seen this mornings Op-Ed in the Courant?

HFS! (0.00 / 0)
33.4%

It was running through my mind this morning. I was at the convention as a delegate. I've been supporting Ned Lamont as a quixotic, desperate gesture, the best result of which, I hoped, would be a primary. Going in, I thought the roll call would be a tense nailbiter as Lamont got one or two votes. Instead, after about 10 minutes, it became clear that Lamont was caputing 20%-30% of town delegates fairly consistently.

We no longer have a protest candidate. We have a bona fide candidate ready to take Lieberman OUT.

The next couple of weeks are going to be interesting, no doubt. And I still have a damn full time job. Damn you, full time job!

And it was great meeting all y'all bloggers, too. Aldon, and spazboy, DforDem (or something -- dude, so sorry I keep forgetting your handle), Matt Stoller, etc. Hope to see you again in New Haven this afternoon.

So: off to clean the car, shower, do some yard work, then off to New Haven to meet Markos. These are good times.

Woo hoo!!

Ring the bells that still can ring. Forget your perfect offering. - L. Cohen


Where have you been? (0.00 / 0)
This has never been a quixotic or desperate gesture. Not for a second. If you'd met Ned Lamont six months ago you knew he was serious about winning, not just in it for "sending messages". His and his campaign's staff hard work is now paying off, in spades. A big pat on the backs to all the bloggers, especially locally who've contributed far beyond the call of duty.

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Self protection (0.00 / 0)
I've been too dissapointed over the past 6 years to get up my hopes too high. "Quixotic" doesn't mean "pointless," and even a mild electoral rebuke of Lieberman's policies would have mall all the effort worthwhile.

Don't confuse my pessimism with hopelessness. ;)

Ring the bells that still can ring. Forget your perfect offering. - L. Cohen


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Thoughts on the convention (0.00 / 0)
I attended the convention as a delegate and also served as a floor whip for Lamont.  This was my first convention although I have followed both state and national politics all my life.  (My tag and a little math will tell you how old I am.)

As I was helping put out Lamont literature before the fun started I remarked to a fellow volunteer that my most vivid memory of a convention was the '68 Democratic convention.  I recalled feeling incredibly proud of our then Senator Abe Ribicoff who stood up to Mayor Daley on national television and told the world what his police were doing to protesters outside the convention hall.  Daley stood on the convention floor and on national t.v. shouted expletives that you couldn't hear but didn't have to be a lip reader to understand - "F... You, you F...ing Kike" (Ribicoff was Jewish).  Later that night, this event was mentioned in one of the nominating speeches (can't remember which one, after yesterday's marathon they're all a blur to me now). I'm not holding my breathe waiting for that to happen.

Wouldn't it be nice if our current Jewish senator had the balls to stand up and tell the truth to the nation rather than beig W's lapdog and cheerleader?


Whoops (0.00 / 0)
Whoops - the tag "I'm not waiting... was supposed to go at the end.

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You had all better let me take a picture (0.00 / 0)
of Ned and Marcos - I plan to have them hold some flowers as an excuse to put their pictures on Frankenoid's Saturday Garden Blog.

convention (0.00 / 0)
I went to the convention yesterday working for Dan Malloy, and it was easily one of the craziest things I have ever been involved with. At times I was certain that fights would break out, and there was constant bickering from both Destefano's people and Malloy's people. I think the majority of delegates, staff and volunteers lost sight of the fact that we're all democrats.

I love the smell of democracy in the morning! (0.00 / 0)
It was certainly full of tension and high drama, that's for sure.  I can only imagine what went on in the back rooms with the Waterbury challenge.  Out on the floor it did resemble some kind of nonviolent battlefield at times.  It was glorious.

I realized that even though we often think of democracy as just people putting their votes in a ballot box in an orderly fashion, that's only one part of it.  Demonstrations, protests, caucuses, petitions, rabble-rousing, procedures and deal-making are all also part of how it works, and always have been.  Remember that the Greek word actually means "mob rule."  Imagine what it must have been like in the agora back in the day, or the uneasy balance of power between plebeians and their tribunes and the patrician class back in the days of the Roman Republic.  It's good though.  It gives us a chance to channel our aggressive primate instincts without having to resort to slicing each other open with actual knives.  Because that is what it comes to when the will of the people is denied, history shows.

And speaking of aggressive primates, I was curious whether Mayor Malloy had some kind of security concern yesterday afternoon.  When he was out twisting arms after the initial roll call vote I noticed he had two or three, shall we say, large and athletic gentlemen right on his heels everywhere he went.  They were not there when he sat down with me an hour earlier.  Just curious if you could shed some light.


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Rumor has it (0.00 / 0)
Those "large and athletic" gentleman following Malloy around are his sons--not hired bodyguards. Somebody else at the convention made a similar observation and this is what I overheard in response to that observation. I can't confirm whether it's true.

"If tyranny and oppression come to this land, it will be in the guise of fighting a foreign enemy."--James Madison

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It's possible (0.00 / 0)
At least two of them were up on the stage with him for the acceptance speech.  But even there they had their eyes constantly checking left, right and center.  They didn't have the look of real serious professionals, who often make a point of being unobtrusive.  But they knew what they were about, and looked ready for action.

I don't recall them being at the mayor's house when we went for a delegate party a couple months ago, though I suppose they could be in college.

Either way, nothing really wrong with it, assuming he either received a credible threat or there was a scuffle between some of his workers and DeStefano people.  Unfortunate, but these things happen.

And you probably noticed that the other side played off it by bringing around a chorus of women chanting, "Don't be a bully!"  Hey, it's all part of the game.

To bring this back to my point about how democracy can get messy when we do it in the flesh, a solid physical presence can be an asset in nonviolent confrontation.  At the risk of sounding like a knuckle-dragger, this is one of the benefits we get from our party's relationship with Labor.  And one more reason we need to recommit ourselves to making that a strong loyalty running both ways.


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I Asked Them If They were Bodyguards (0.00 / 0)
They are his sons - they are imposing lads!

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Branford you are ahead of most (0.00 / 0)
I was just reading the Hartford Courant and their headline sounded awfully familiar.  I think I saw it somewhere  earlier.

Hah! (0.00 / 0)
I met a journalist at the convention (not from the Courant) who told me, "I like your blog. I steal from it all the time."

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Well Bradford...you do write well (0.00 / 0)
and here is my take on the results of the Convention.

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LizzyBeth (0.00 / 0)
You should crosspost that in a Diary here!

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Great Editorial in the Courant (0.00 / 0)

Kevin Rennie is a lawyer and a former Republican state lawmaker. His column appears every Sunday. Here are highlights from Rennie's commentary:

Lieberman's In Trouble

From the start of the Democratic state convention Friday night, there was something different from past gatherings of the faithful.

/snip

It fell flat but raised an essential question: Can Joe Lieberman win over Democrats by acknowledging the public's hostility to the war in Iraq but not altering his support for it? Friday night's balloting bodes ill for the humble but haughty strategy.

/snip

The Lieberman people seemed dispirited all night. His demonstrators waved and rubbed together curious-looking wiener-shaped balloons advising "Stick With Joe" as they made their way through the aisles in a short, obligatory demonstration to the tune of "Still the One."

/snip
Discomfort turned to pain for the Lieberman campaign when the first town in the 1st Congressional District began the roll call: Barkhamsted cast its two votes for Lamont. The challenger received votes in town after town, sometimes one at a time, sometimes considerably more. When once Lieberman-friendly Windsor cast 13 of its 17 votes for Lamont, a roar of surprise filled the hall. Lamont would sail past the crucial 15 percent threshold before reaching his 4th Congressional District stronghold. Lieberman ought to be grateful it was not a secret ballot. If it had been, some of the 100 missing delegates might have found the backbone to vote.

/snip

This opininion is in the same spirit as the TV news coverage. It's pretty shocking that even the MSM sees the writing on the wall for Old Joe. He should be scared.


OT, but really On topic too... (4.00 / 1)

The Lieberman people seemed dispirited all night. His demonstrators waved and rubbed together curious-looking wiener-shaped balloons advising "Stick With Joe" as they made their way through the aisles in a short, obligatory demonstration to the tune of "Still the One."

Bush played that song in Ohio in 04.  Curiously enough John Hall heard it

John Hall is running for Congress in New York.  He is from Dover which borders Kent, Ct.

Check out who is playing at his fundraiser.

**closing mouth, eyes looking side to side** 


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I thought it was just me! (0.00 / 0)
this is quite a concession out of Rennie.  He is usually quite Right winger, I have emailed him on some of his articles in the NorthEast mag. before.
I felt the electricity on Friday night for Lamont, but figured it was because it was my first Convention.  There was definetly an Optimism with Lamont supporters, that was missing from Lieberman's.  I was working the Lamont table, and we ran out of those Large lamont signs, from delegates who came running back to tape them over the Lieberman signs that they had left on all the chairs.  We ran out of signs, so many delegates came and got them.  The entire night was filled with HOPE.  Hope that our future will improve once we get Ned in!

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take the gloves off (0.00 / 0)
I will be really disappointed if the Lamont campaign doesn't work to tie Lieberman to the war and to Bush. Along with NAFTA these are his best issues and he should pummel little Joe with them everyday.

chris.. (0.00 / 0)

CDo you know where Lamont stands on the war?

You bet you do as that is all the CMSM presents. Lamont is the anti-war candidate. That Lamont represents the left-wing anti-war fringe.

The LAST thing we need to promote is the anti-war meme.

Please read the threads about changing the frames which discuss this in detail.

The question is not what you are, we already determined that, we are now negotiating price.
electrealdemocrats.com Online since 3/07 -- TimetogoJoe.com Online s


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careful on the war one. (0.00 / 0)
"I will be really disappointed if the Lamont campaign doesn't work to tie Lieberman to the war and to Bush. Along with NAFTA these are his best issues and he should pummel little Joe with them everyday."

I had my Town Committee chairman come back to me in a message, (when I questioned his article saying he was recommending to his delegates to vote Lieberman), and say "all you Lamont supporters are one-issue voters and there is a lot more issues out there than that"!  A lot of people think that, so we have to start pushing the rest of the issues, like Joe signing the Energy bill, his wanting School vouchers, etc.  He has voted with the Republicans 20%!  that is 20% too much, at a time when the Republicans marched shoulder to shoulder on every single issue, and then we had Dems like Lieberman voting with them, so they could say "See, even some Democrats believe we are right". 


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Women's Rights should be one of the MAJOR issues of this campaign (0.00 / 0)
The NOW endorsement is HUGE. A huge boost for Lamont and a huge blow for Lieberman. Major organizations like NOW rarely endorse insurgent candidates running against entrenched incumbents in a primary. The fact that they went out on a limb to support Lamont sends a very clear message. A vote for Lieberman is a vote against women.

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Nafta (0.00 / 0)
Did Joe support the Nafta treaty? I hadn't heard that one. Whack him with that one I am a union member. Ned visited us one night (Southeast Central Labor Council)

NAFTA and then CAFTA.. (0.00 / 0)
One of the few Democratic Senators who felt NAFTA wasn't sending enough of our jobs away. So Joe voted for CAFTA!

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eminent domain might be a good issue too (0.00 / 0)
I am pretty sure little Joe supported this too

 
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