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Greenwich Town Hall: Jim Himes Calms the Savage Beasts

by: thomashooker

Mon Aug 31, 2009 at 21:02:39 PM EDT


I attended the just-completed health care town hall meeting at Greenwich Town Hall attended by roughly 300 people.  To summarize Congressman Himes did a very admirable job of explaining the problems with our health care system, explaining what health care reform is necessary, what Congress is debating, and what he intends to vote for.  I'd estimate that about 40% of the people in the meeting room tonight were anti-health care reform.  They started out interrupting, throwing out catcalls, and being rather disruptive.  But Congressman Himes answered questions thoroughly, he used data, he explained his positions clearly, and by eight o'clock at the end of the hour and a half session, all participants were much more subdued, and it appeared that many of the anti folks in the audience had their fears calmed.  Of course, you never know with these tin hat types, but the mood in the room certainly became more calmed as the meeting went on and I will have to credit Jim Himes for soothing the fears of many in attendance.

Himes made the following points:

In his introduction he pointed out that the average American family now pays nearly $15,000 either directly or indirectly for health care coverage, and in ten years it is estimated to rise to #30,000.

He stated that we cannot reform Medicare or get our fiscal balance under control without reforming our nation's health care system.

He stated that reforming our health care system and giving every child the opportunity to see a doctor is a matter of morality.

Disturbingly, however, Congressman Himes repeatedly referred to Medicare having $30 tn in unfunded liabilities in terms of the present value of promised care over the next 75 years.  He also stated repeatedly that reforming Medicare will be difficult, involve difficult choices, and demand that services to Medicare beneficiaries be reduced in the future.  

thomashooker :: Greenwich Town Hall: Jim Himes Calms the Savage Beasts

Outside the hall, however, it was a different story.  According to Greenwich Post reporter Ken Borsuk with whom I talked as I was leaving the hall, at least a hundred people who couldn't gain entrance debated each other bitterly outside the main entrance to Town Hall.  I went to the front door and witnessed the group of angry tin hatters yelling out front.  After the formal meeting broke up, Congressman Himes came out to talk with the ignorant crazies who were still there, about 70 people by my reckoning.  Unlike the anti's who had listened to all of Himes' answers in the hall, these were unreconstructed morons who hooted at him, yelled at him, made references to a socialistic takeover of health care, accused him and Obama of holding on to most of the stimulus money so that they could use it for their reelection campaigns.  Greenwich Democrat and former BET member Ed Krumeich tried to help out Himes by bellowing in his marvelous, legally-trained stentorian voice to demand that the nutjobs let Himes answer the questions put to him and to keep quiet while the congressman was trying to answer them.

The best comment I heard was from one of the crazies standing at the back of the crowd making snotty comments. As I was about to leave, she said, "They're talking down to us; they think we're stupid."  Yes, lady, you are stupid, incredibly stupid.  Got that right.

Indeed, mingling with the tin hat crowd who apparently had arrived en masse too late to get in, it was apparent that they were ignorant and scared.  The world is just too difficult for them to understand, but it is treating them wrong, they've grabbed the short end of the stick, and they don't know what to do.  They are grasping for understanding through conspiracy theories that dovetail with their natural racism: each one of the crazies mixed in "ACORN" in their list of enemies.  In a way I feel sorry for them, but I am also very afraid of the pathologies that motivate them.  It only takes one of these nutjobs, egged on by his fellow nutjobs, to do horrible things.

But kudos to Congressman Himes.  He entered the lions' den, he dealt calmly and logically with a group of agitated and illogical people, and with each answer to each paranoid questioner, made headway.  

Quite a performance, really.

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I have been deeply discouraged at the devolution of the communication (I can't dignify it by calling it a dialogue) on this topic and really turned off by the notion that actual corporations are helping to pay for the racist, uninformed/ignorant ranting that is being offered up to fill the air space and supplant actual ideas and genuine exchange.  

When I heard that some of the protesters might be funded by the insurance industry, I had to wonder: What kind of company, what kind of leadership, thinks this is a good idea?  Pretty disgusting.

Anyhow, I am pleasantly surprised at the kind of information that you describe Jim as presenting and the civility of the exchange -- this is exactly what I figured would NOT be able to be presented or discussed -- I thought it was highly unlikely to happen at a "dueling nutjobs" deliberate railroading of a town hall.  

Hopefully there can be an exchange of facts on Jim's perspective on Medicare and unfunded liabilities.

At some point, the bigger picture is:  Why is health care at the back of the bus?  Why are so many other things in our budget ahead of health care?  If we have to shift our priorities, that seems like a good idea rather than wringing our hands about how we just can't afford it.

The lack of concern and compassion reflected in by some lawmakers is reminiscent of Katrina, only this is a "Katrina moment" of a far greater magnitude in terms of numbers affected.

If the self-described ignorant people arrived too late to be seated, I have to wonder whether any groups of people deliberately arrived extra early so that there would be no room for nutcases.  It did make for a far more constructive meeting.

Too bad this is not on video -- it would be a real contribution to the health care conversation, unlike most of the sound bites out there (I said wearily).

THANKS, thomashooker, for the report.


I was at Sunday's Wilton event with Jim Himes (0.00 / 0)
which was not called to be a health care town hall per se -- but essentially turned into one, albeit somewhat smaller.

Originally planned as a Congressman on Your Corner event in the Town Hall Annex, the crowd of about 100 or more was moved outside instead.

And the angry, fear-driven anti-health reform folks were there in numbers, many with their website talking-point printouts from Heritage Foundation, Dick Armey's Freedom Watch and Rick Scott's Conservatives for Patients Rights.  A few of the loudest were disruptive and volatile.  At one point a highly agitated woman screamed at Himes to "remove Nancy Pelosi as Speaker of the House", her voice and body shaking with some misplaced rage, while about half the crowd cheered their approval.

The key at the Wilton event -- and it seems at the Greenwich one too -- was that, when confronted with fear, prejudice and ignorance Jim Himes responded with courage, conviction and intelligence.  And it was clear to me that he will not be swayed in his strong support for real health care reform with a public insurance option.


Himes: Strong Support For a Public Option! (0.00 / 0)
Himes said: "To reform the insurance industry, I think it's critical that we have a public option."

Makes my day.

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