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Lamont Pledges Neutrality in Moderating Upcoming Legalization Forum

by: ken_krayeske

Wed Jan 28, 2009 at 16:34:25 PM EST


         Cross-posted from the40yearplan.com

The war on drugs has claimed another politician: Ned Lamont will moderate a forum at the "Drug Policy for the 21st Century" conference at Central Connecticut State University, Wednesday, February 4, 2009.

National legalization experts like keynote speaker Ethan Nadelmann from the Drug Policy Alliance, and panelist Jack Cole, from Law Enforcement Against Prohibition will lead the conference, co-sponsored by CCSU's Peace Studies Department and its Institute for the Study of Criminal Justice. Tickets are still available for the conference here.

Give Lamont some credit for guiding the afternoon's premier panel, featuring Connecticut anti-prohibitionists like Cliff Thornton, whose 2006 Green Party campaign for governor I managed, former Hartford City Councilman Bob Painter and A Better Way's Lorenzo Jones.

But surrounded by activists openly touting legalization, with no one on the panel to argue for the drug war, you think that Lamont, who enjoys a part-time professorship in the Peace Studies Department at CCSU, would be forthcoming about his opinions and history with illegal drugs.

"No, I am not answering any of those questions," Lamont said when I asked him if he had ever done any illegal drugs. Nor would he go on the record to analyze prohibition.

"It is a long overdue debate for the state of Connecticut," Lamont would only say. "As a moderator I am going to do everything I can to be neutral. I am going to be a provocateur."

So Ned is playing his participation like a man who is running for office in 2010. And frankly, I tire of leadership - or those who purport to want to lead society via electoral office - equivocating on the most intense, important issues of our day.

Lamont did not make the war on drugs an issue in his Senate campaign. So when did he have this epiphany that the war on drugs was bad? Or does he think by lending his world-famous, Lieberman-slaying name to a conference that endorses legalization, he can still straddle this fault line of an issue?

"A leading indicator of a politician's character is their stance on the drug war, or lack thereof," Thornton said.

ken_krayeske :: Lamont Pledges Neutrality in Moderating Upcoming Legalization Forum
While President Barack Obama has not touched the devastating side effects of the war on some drugs, has at least admitted to smoking marijuana and experimenting with cocaine. So what gives, Ned?

When I called him for the interview, I told his secretary who I was, and indicated that I wanted to interview Ned. And I swore that at the beginning of the conversation with Ned, I told him this was for my website and myleftnutmeg.com. But I apparently didn't.

Yet he knows I am a journalist. The first time I met him was to interview him at his office in Greenwich in January 2006. He impressed me enough that I eventually worked for his campaign for two months in spring 2006 before joining Thornton's efforts. And to complete disclosure, I remember introducing Thornton and Lamont at a Saturday night debate fanfare at CCSU during the 2006 election.

This time, on the phone, we made small talk for a minute - I updated him on the civil rights lawsuit surrounding my false arrest, and I mentioned that I read the case for law school that his Uncle Corliss won against the U.S. Postal Service for reading his Communist-themed mail. Then I asked Lamont how he decided to participate in the CCSU conference.

"Cliff had contacted me a year or so ago to do something on drug policy," Lamont said. "It took a year or so to get it together."

When I moved to ask him about his history with illegal drugs, he suddenly inquired if was typing this, and if the conversation was on the record? I said yes, and he said no, he thought we were talking as friends, and it was off the record.

Friends, I thought, as if Ned and I trade chocolate chip cookie recipes or swill beers at Kenney's Red Rock Tavern on Tuesday nights? And if we were talking as friends, why be so defensive?

To respect the reporter's tool of off the record, we negotiated what parts of the conversation I could print, and what stayed off the record. Ned is no dummy, and I bet he wants to run for office in 2010, although he isn't jumping in the race now.

So he seeks to protect himself from the vulnerability of taking a courageous stance. Harbor no doubt that past drug use for those who advocate change remains a political liability. Why else would the opposing lawyer who deposed me in my federal civil rights suit open by asking about my LSD use? I've never made a secret of my usage of psychoactive substances.

People who want your vote, though, do want to hide things. But it is dishonest to hold a view privately which could free thousands of people from jail then vote on a budget that funds those jails.

"That is the way of politicians," Thornton said. "He might try to go the back door, doing things like he is doing now and not give one way or the other where he stands. Politicians are scared to death of this issue."

The economic and infrastructural implications of ending the war on drugs frightens politicians, Thornton said. It's not just what are we going to do with the thousands of people jailed in the criminal justice system, but what about the lawyers, prison guards, cops, and even drug test technicians who would lose their jobs if we declared a truce in the war on some drugs?

"We have to use the infrastructure that is in place," Thornton said. "It is a shift in priorities." People will have to be re-trained to help ramp down and unbuild the infrastructure of the prison-industrial complex.

But before we end the age of incarceration, we need a baseline honesty about who has participated in this failed set of laws, a kind of truth and reconciliation approach to it. Obviously, we need to know what drug-dealing black operations the CIA, the White House (like George H. W. Bush) and any other branch of government has been involved in.

And for those who plan to help us change the policy, we also need to know where they stand and how long they have felt this way.

Until everyone is frank about their position and past, drug use will remain a vulnerability for those of us who espouse changing the position, and it will remain an activity that jails people - particularly those of color - by the score.

Obviously, Thornton agrees that Lamont and others who seek to make policy decisions regarding the war on drugs must come out of the closet.

"Anyone that is for this policy has to be directly responsible for the result," Thornton said. "Anyone that is against it, no, they don't have to be accountable for their use. Those in the middle, going along to get along makes one complicit. Ned Lamont is complicit in this."

Thornton has never been known to mince words. Lamont, on the other hand, refused to condemn Israel in July 2006 for using banned white phosphorous munitions on Lebanese civilians. If his campaign hadn't shown me the door before that, I would've walked away then. Why try to out-warmonger Lieberman?

More recently, Lamont showed exactly what kind of a lightweight he is when in September 2008 he said the financial crisis was Greenwich's Katrina. Christopher Keating of the Hartford Courant reported Lamont's the quote, and even the Wall Street Journal found it so absurd as to highlight it.

And there's still time to check out the Feb. 4 conference at CCSU. Registration is open. Contact CCSU's Lyndsay Ruffalo at 860-832-1872.

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Cut him some slack Ken (4.00 / 4)
While I wish Ned and other politicians would be honest about what a futile farce the alleged "War on Drugs" really is, I think you've got to cut him some slack here.  He's moderating the panel so he probably feels he should maintain neutrality so those with opposing (though clearly wrong) viewpoints will free free to express themselves and participate.

I also don't blaming him for not discussing his own use or non-use of drugs.  Its better not to play that kind of gotcha unless there is some evidence of a hypocritical stance, like advocating harsh penalties after being the head stoner in college.

I also don't see the sin in the Katrina comment.  I think it was  perhaps a poorly worded metaphor, showing that the melt down is tearing up Fairfield County and its citizens' lives just as Katrina did to N.O. Of course that was an act of nature while the meltdown was perpetrated by these financial geniuses on themselves.

The sad fact is that the "truth tellers" like Ralph Nader and even Cliff Thornton can't get elected today.  So what's the best course - scream into the wind or do what's necessary to get elected and actually make a difference.  Its a conundrum.


Screaming into the Wind Suits Me Fine (0.00 / 0)
Should I cut opposing counsel slack? The attorney is just representing the police, who protect and serve, right? Law enforcement agencies, in defending themselves against my federal civil rights claims that their operatives violated the Constitution, have asked me about my drug use. What on earth does that have to do with these same police illegally placing me on a watch list and incarcerating me for it?

I hate to keep going back to January 3, 2007. I am sick of it. I want it to go away. But I like my right to free speech, and to protect that right, I have to revisit Jan. 3, 2007 more than I like. So long as consequences of that day still haunt me, I'm going to write about the conclusions my experiences lead me to.

If my small attempt to preserve the First Amendment demands that I should reveal my history, why don't we have the same standard for those who seek to represent us? Why can't we demand a straightforward discussion?  

Nobody here said a word when I wrote nicely about Ned. Not even a "Gee, Ken, good bit of ass kissing, there, glad to see you agree with Dear Leader." When I throw up an opinion that runs against the accepted course of dialogue on mln, I am a "clown."  

I am thrilled that I just sparked a debate where five people who have supported and agreed with me previously now have decided I crossed a line.

Lamont spent $15 million to defend habeas corpus here, but refuses to extend the ancient courtesy to our perceived enemies. If we stand by while Israel burns people alive with American weapons in Lebanon and Gaza, clearly, we demonstrate that our way of due process is better.

Kucinich is elected, but he falls in line. Ralph and Cliff can't get elected because the system is rigged against those who refuse to fall in line. Whether its Eddie Perez raising hundreds of thousands from city contractors or Barack Obama and McCain refusing to debate Nader, Barr and McKinney or Ned and Joe spending some $35 a vote, our elections are not fair. If some information hasn't reached the voting public because it was suppressed by money and power, can we say a rational choice was made?

I'll shout into the wind to until I run out of breath, and then I'll shout more. We need more than baby steps right now. We waste billions and jail millions annually on a phony war on drugs, and we must acknowledge its deepest consequences to our society.


[ Parent ]
don't beat up your friends (4.00 / 2)
Let's begin, first, by remembering that Ned Lamont changed the debate about the Iraq War, proving that you could win a primary against 3-term incumbent Senator by speaking the truth about that disaster.

Next, let's look at some of the work Lamont has done on Middle East issues. After the 2006 election, Lamont traveled to the Middle East and wrote about his trip. Here's some of what he said:

If Dubai is wide open and welcoming, Gaza is closed for business. Israel and Egypt have shut down their borders with Gaza, which is walled in and may be accessed by a few NGOs at the Erez check point. It's a perversion of the Great Wall of China, winding its way around an area twice the size of Washington DC. The wall around Gaza prevents arms (and almost everything else) from getting in, and suicide bombers (and almost everybody else) from getting out. I was with an NGO for the day, and after a couple of hours and many warnings, we walked through the final steel gate into the bombed out Gazan landscape.

Do you remember Kurt Russell in Escape from L.A. after Los Angeles has been turned into a vast open-air prison? This is Gaza in October 2007. Ever since Hamas was elected early last year and Fatah was later expelled, the residents of Gaza, most of whom are too young to vote, have been walled in and unable to escape. Sewage is overflowing in the streets, hospitals are running out of medicine, and the UN-supplied food is being rationed. "The idea is to put the Palestinians on a diet," the Guardian newspaper quoted an Israeli official as explaining, "but not to make them die of hunger."

Ned wrote this more than a year ago. (Read the whole thing -- it's a great piece.)

What has Chris Dodd or Joe Lieberman or any other CT politician said or done on this topic that's even remotely close to describing conditions in Gaza? Dodd and Lieberman are sitting Senators, and they represent you. You want to be angry, then be angry at them.  

It's bad form to take it out on your friends. Ned is one of the good guys.  


[ Parent ]
That's what I think (4.00 / 3)
I knew if I waited long enough, someone else would save me the effort and state exactly my thoughts on the topic.

Ned IS one of the good guys, and Ken's vehemence over the drug issue (we GET it Ken, you like to toke up once in a while LOL) is taking away from the other 90%+ of the issues where Ned's spot-on, and often magnitudes better, when compared to our current legislators.

Although, I do enjoy a spirited debate, and this one is a doozy!  

Connecticut Bob


[ Parent ]
Screaming into the wind is fine (4.00 / 1)
But when you piss into the wind you usually end up all wet.

That's exactly what you did with this diary.


[ Parent ]
I have to agree (4.00 / 1)
Though I've cheered Ken in the past, I think this post is most unfair.  First, to criticize Ned for ascertaining whether this was an on-the-record interview, or just a conversation with someone who was curious about the issues of an upcoming conference just isn't kosher.  And you admitted that you hadn't told him up front that this was an interview or that you were requesting to interview him for such and such a publication.  From your post it doesn't appear out of line for Lamont to have discussed ground rules, particularly about what had been said when he didn't understand that he was being interviewed.

I also must take issue with the "lightweight" comment.  Let's be very clear: No one who takes on a three-decade incumbent for United States senator on the issue of opposition to a war America is fighting is a lightweight.  Ned Lamont showed enormous courage and integrity in stepping forward to take on Lieberman, whom the political cognoscenti believed unbeatable.  And though he lost the general election, Ned ignited a prairie fire of opposition to the war and steeled the nerves of Democratic politicians and candidates, leading directly to the Democrats' taking back the Congress in 2006.  Indeed, it was Ned's successful challenge on the war that paved the way for Barack Obama's success in the Democratic primary last year.  For his efforts Ned Lamont was savaged by every right-wing pundit, Republican, and whackjob fundraiser and talkshow host.  Yet he fought to the end, and we're a better country because he did.

I don't see that a politician's possible drug use, or his discussing it, is really of major importance in this era.  Barack Obama admitted using cocaine, as did Bill Clinton, and George Bush acknowledged being an alcoholic.  Yet all three were elected to office, and none of the three changed drug or alcohol policy ('bout time to consider reducing the drinking age in order to eliminate binge drinking).

And let's keep in mind that Ned chaired Barack Obama's campaign in Connecticut, in the process delivering the state for him on Super Tuesday, the only state in New England that went for Obama on that underwhelming day.

I'm sorry, Ken, but Ned Lamont deserves far more respect, consideration, and-yes- admiration than he gets in the traditional press.  And I've got to say that the gratuitous remarks in your column are both undeserved and mystifyingly severe.  

A reevaluation of our drug policies is in order, especially since we are locking up so many for such non-violent crimes.  But this invective against Ned Lamont certainly does nothing to achieve that goal.


[ Parent ]
So I guess in your mind (4.00 / 1)
and probably only in your mind,your clown Thornton is a political heavyweight.

I noticed you didn't list either your  or the supposed Professers preferred or just experimented with illegal drug experiences either.

Shit like this,which you obviously think makes you look clever and committed, just gives those who consider you a clown more ammo.


Don't get it (4.00 / 5)
Ned Lamont agrees to moderate a much-needed forum on drug policy, and you spend most of the diary criticizing him?

You should be thanking him.

By the way, if I were Ned, I wouldn't answer your drug use questions either. First of all, it's none of your business. Secondly, why should I trust you to accurately express my thoughts on such a controversial topic? Thirdly, I have kids and would prefer to discuss those kinds of things with them personally.

But thanks for alerting folks about the conference. It should be a good one.  


I was going to make the same point (0.00 / 0)
about privacy, but after thinking about it a minute, I can't pick a clear place to draw a line for people running for office. I don't place much weight on past substance use or abuse for candidates, unless it's a question of fitness for office or hypocrisy as amarko mentioned. I'm not sure if the public has a "right to know", but I think they have at least a right to ask and if the politician feels it's politically expedient to divulge any of their past then they make that call. However I do not feel, as Ken apparently does, that to hold private views that you  share with friends but don't want on the record makes you somehow dishonest.  

"There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning." - Warren Buffet

[ Parent ]
Ken, you're a good guy, but this diary (4.00 / 4)
is ridiculous.

Why don't we let Ned be Ned, and retain some degree of electability?

And if you and a bunch of hopeless Greenies want to unite behind "purists" like Thornton, Nader, or Kucinich, go for it bro...


Ken (4.00 / 4)
who are you helping or really informing with the piece?

Really disappointed

Perfect is the enemy of the good.  

impeachment today, treason trials tonight, hanging tomorrow


The jail is the enemy of the free. (0.00 / 0)


[ Parent ]
Well Ken (0.00 / 0)
If you're really as pure as you claim to be shouldn't you buy 2 hits of acid next time you get the urge and drop one and then turn  yourself into the police and hand the other over to the police as evidence?

Sometimes you amaze me by how blind,deaf and dumb you can be to reality.


[ Parent ]
It's been 15 years since I ate LSD. (0.00 / 0)
So again, I'll ask, why is this information relevant for the state to know to defend itself against my false arrest charges against it?

If you can help me answer that question, then I'll be glad to change my mind regarding what we demand of our leaders.

And I am not blind to the reality I see in Hartford streets every day - the war on drugs is meant to be fought, not won, and the people who live in the cities of America suffer the collateral damage of this war daily.



[ Parent ]
Ken (0.00 / 0)
You're in your last year of Law School and you haven't learned what depositions are all about yet?

When I was deposed for a lawsuit I was involved in the lawyer for the other side spent 6 hours asking me questions about my childhood from my earliest memories to the time I was 12.This was a wrongful termination suit(which I won,thanks to a great lawyer and because I always told the truth).My Lawyer explained 1) The Lawyer deposing me was paid by the hour. 2)  He was trying to unnerve and annoy me in order to induce a mistake.

If this lawyer got you flustered,confused and questioning yourself because of the questions he asked he got EXACTLY what he wanted out of asking those questions.

Lawyers have VERY WIDE LATITUDE when deposing litigants and others.I'd have thought you'd have learned this by the last year of Law School.


[ Parent ]
Really? (4.00 / 5)
So Ned is playing his participation like a man who is running for office in 2010.

I'm not sure that's fair.  Isn't it more likely that Ned is playing his participation like a man who has been active at CCSU since 2006?  Go to the page linked above--right here--and do a CTRL+F search for Lamont.  I did, and I was really surprised to see just how frequently he participates in panels at Central.



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Wow (0.00 / 0)
You've really grabbed a live wire on this one Ken.  I stand by my previous comments

 
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