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Democrats= Epic Fail

by: Scarce

Tue Nov 18, 2008 at 12:16:46 PM EST


In their first major decision since the election the Senate Democrats led by Harry Reid tell everyone to go eat a shit sandwich.

Senator Harry Reid just spoke to reporters after the private caucus meeting with Dems over Joe Lieberman's fate, and he confirmed it: Lieberman will not be stripped of his Homeland Security chairmanship, because the "vast majority" of the Democratic caucus wants him to stay.

"This was not a time for retribution," Reid said, adding that "we're moving forward."

Lieberman was removed from the Environment and Public Works Committee, a largely meaningless punishment since it's a topic (unlike Homeland Security) on which he has no differences with Dems.

Asked about liberal "anger" towards Lieberman, Reid said: "I pretty well understand anger. I would defy anyone to be more angry than I was."

But he added: "If you will look at the problems that we face as a nation, is this a time we walk out of here saying boy did we get even?"

"I feel good about what we did today," Reid said. "We're moving forward."

http://tpmelectioncentral.talk...

(Update 1): Greg Sargent pretty much sums things up perfectly at the end of his write-up:

So, Senate Dems will be allowing Lieberman to keep his plum spot despite the fact that he has been deeply awful in that role, and despite the fact that he endorsed efforts by the GOP to imply that Obama is in league with terrorists, suggested that Obama endangered our troops, and said Obama hasn't always put the country first.

Worse, Reid is echoing an argument he knows is false: That this is only about retribution. Reid and his fellow Senators have made the political decision to leave Lieberman in a job that he was a disaster at, rather than make the good governmental decision to remove him for the good of the country.

Reid and his fellow Senators have made the political decision to leave Lieberman in a job that he was a disaster at, rather than make the good governmental decision to remove him for the good of the country.


...shame.
Scarce :: Democrats= Epic Fail
(Update 2): Great words of wisdom from Jane:
I hope this puts to rest the notion that this is all some master stroke of kumbayah, of keeping your friends close and your enemies closer.

This is about telling you that you mean nothing. That democracy is a nice word, but it should never threaten the entitlement of the most exclusive club in the world.

No matter what Joe Lieberman does, the people who are protecting him hate you much more than they hate him.


Feel sick to your stomach, then send State Central a message not to let Joe off the hook and support the censure resolution.
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Greg Sargent at TPM makes a good point (0.00 / 0)
Worse, Reid is echoing an argument he knows is false: That this is only about retribution. Reid and his fellow Senators have made the political decision to leave Lieberman in a job that he was a disaster at, rather than make the good governmental decision to remove him for the good of the country.

Unfortunately, competence is according to Lawrence O'Donnell not a consideration at all in the world of Senate Committees. Arianna Huffington, subbing for Rachel Maddow, thanks him for his depressing but probably accurate depiction of the U.S. Senate, and probably an excellent reason why it is so dysfunctional.



you're too fast for me (0.00 / 0)
posted and then saw your comment...

[ Parent ]
Greg Sargent gets it (4.00 / 1)
Worse, Reid is echoing an argument he knows is false: That this is only about retribution. Reid and his fellow Senators have made the political decision to leave Lieberman in a job that he was a disaster at, rather than make the good governmental decision to remove him for the good of the country

(TPM Muckraker, link as above)


IT also makes me sick to hear Reid say that... (4.00 / 1)
Democrats only held the majority in the Senate because of Joe Lieberman.  Had national Democrats come out for our own nominee Ned Lamont, Democrats would not only have controlled the Senate, but would have been respected a great deal more, and the Constitution State would have been represented by a senator whom we could all respect, not revile.

We're really sorry, Ned.  You didn't deserve this.


[ Parent ]
%^&*( (0.00 / 0)
If there's a more insulated, out-of-touch institution than the Senate, I can't think of it. (The Bush White house, perhaps).

I guess now we have to ask if Lieberman will be able to run as a Democrat in 2012?!?!???

"There's class warfare, all right, but it's my class, the rich class, that's making war, and we're winning." - Warren Buffet


I believe that Joe (0.00 / 0)
will convince Dems that he should replace Harry Reid as the Senate Majority leader because Reid was too soft on the Neoconservatives and always gave them everything they wanted.

Senate dems would deserve that if it happened.

EPIC FAIL!


Drinking Liberally in New Milford
ePluribus Media


[ Parent ]
Political Gormandizing (4.00 / 1)
Bloggers and readers of MLN stop asking yourselves why shit sandwiches make you sick.

Try buttered toast. Or leafy greens on a pita. Or anything that allows you to eat a healthly civic meal.

Jane Hamsher said she is not feeling too welcome right now. She is talking about focusing on the Primary Project, but I think Connecticut knows the futility of that thanks to Ned Lamont.

The Green Party is but a shell waiting for hundreds of progressives in Connecticut to take it over and run candidates for office. If you don't like the Greens, let's start a new party - call it the Green Democrats. The Peace Party. The Grassroots Party. The Progressive Populists Party. Whatever. Call it the Shit Sandwich Party, so we remember why we gave up on the Democrats.

For those who voted in droves for progressive change, and  are served Lieberman, Clinton x 2, Emmanuel, Pelosi and Reid - I beg you stop giving your loyalty to a party that betrays your ideals again and again and again and again.



I keep thinking (0.00 / 0)
we need to start a left leaning Bloggers party.  


Drinking Liberally in New Milford
ePluribus Media


[ Parent ]
Call it the Working Families Party (4.00 / 1)
... it already exists.  

[ Parent ]
I am absolutely sick to my stomach! (4.00 / 1)
What a gutless, snivelling slap in the face that Harry Reid and the Senate Democrats just delivered to the people of Connecticut and Democrats across the country.  Could Harry Reid be any more of a spineless little twit?

And Chris Dodd, you're history.  I am absolutely ashamed of you.  To stand up for that jerk Lieberman when more than three-quarters of Democrats in the Constitution State oppose him, and when most Nutmeggers want to vote him out is an absolute disgrace.

And I am absolutely ashamed, Senator Dodd, of the disgraceful way you have treated Ned Lamont.  Ned Lamont's courage was the spark that led the Democrats to retake the Congress two years ago, and he was the spark that led directly into the Democrats' taking back the White House as well.  Ned Lamont campaigned hard for you, Senator Dodd, then he worked hard for Barack Obama.  But you repay him with the back of your hand by leading the movement not to penalize Lieberman for any of his transgressions.

I am ashamed of the Democratic Party, and I am angry as hell at Chris Dodd.  


43 For , 12 Against (4.00 / 1)
..and two of those were from Vermont, where apparently they are more reality-based than in other states.

http://greenmountaindaily.com/...


with a 20% approval rate... (4.00 / 1)
among Democrats? I don't think so. Lamont (if he decides to run again, I'm guessing he will) will win over a lot of the remaining renegade democrats and disaffected independents. Obama's presence at the top of the ticket will help him draw Democratic voters.
But I'm not really willing to wait till 2012. Dodd comes up for re-election in 2010; his support of Lieberman just adds to the ridiculous bailout and corruption scandals that endanger him in the first place. I'm for taking him down, and from what I've heard on netroots sites, there's millions of dollars to be had by any progressive challenger.

Just one big party (0.00 / 0)
If only I could choose who my senators were, I wouldn't have such abysmal representation.

Some additional thoughts (4.00 / 1)
I want to believe that Obama is being Lincolnesque by bringing "different" viewpoints into his cabinet, but the skeptical side of me sees him demonstrating that the U.S.A. is a one-party system.

The decision to keep Lieberman signals not that bygones are bygones, but the status quo rules.

I would like to be optimistic and think that Lieberman's knighting ceremony will show the world that you can dissent and not be punished. But based on the free speech zones they have already set up for the inauguration, I tend to doubt that.



Good point (4.00 / 2)
In a so-called "Change Election" we're treated to more of the same, don't-rock-the-boat extremely lame Democrats. So very timid.

[ Parent ]
Thank Chris Dodd (4.00 / 1)
 Chris Dodd, thanks for showing us where your loyalties lie.  

Reminds me of the good old days, when you and Joe Lieberman helped drain $200 billion out of investors pockets ...

CHARLES LEWIS, Center for Public Integrity: Chris Dodd, here he is, he's Chairman of the Democratic Party, but he's also the leading advocate in the U.S. Senate on behalf of the accounting industry. And he helps overturn the veto of his own president, who installed him as Democratic chairman. Chris Dodd might as well have been on the accounting industry's payroll. He couldn't have helped them any more than he did as a U.S. senator.

HEDRICK SMITH: By way of thanks, the accounting industry gave Senator Dodd nearly one quarter of a million dollars in political donations, even though, at the time, Dodd was not up for reelection. [...]

RICHARD WALKER, SEC Enforcement Chief (1998-2001): The accountants were the big winners with the [Private] Litigation Reform Act. The law imposed a proportionate liability standard, which means that if the accountants only contribute to, say, 20 percent of the loss, then they would only be responsible for 20 percent of the amount that would have to be paid.

HEDRICK SMITH: Less risk for accountants, among others, critics said, would mean less of a deterrent to wrongdoing. And the late '90s brought an explosion in major accounting failures. [...]

LYNN TURNER, SEC Chief Accountant (1998-2001): For the last half dozen years, investors had lost probably close to a $100 billion, suffered those type of losses from these situations like Cendant, Waste Management, Sunbeam, Microstrategy, Rite Aid, Lucent, Xerox. Then along comes Enron. Phenomenal! And we add on now every day, Global Crossing and others. Investors are now looking at losses probably coming close to $200 billion. It is real, real damage to the country.

The more things change ...


Picture worth a.... (0.00 / 0)
If Dick Durban of IL is right to the rear of HoJo you know that the President-elect had a big say in the vote.

Not from your state (0.00 / 0)
I am not from your state but LIE-bermans vote affect me here in Maryland like my two SENATORS vote affects you. All three have shit in my CEREAL, so I will work very hard to out my two SENATORS what are you going to do about yours? LIE-berman

If you're waiting on a comment from Nancy DiNardo on what she thinks (0.00 / 0)
...this should give you a clue.



Hary Reid has to be one of the dumbest politicians in the US of A (4.00 / 2)
I thought it was the Republicans who celegrated ignorance, and the Democrats who respected learning and truth and science.  But to see how the Senatorial Democrats line up behind a dimwit and spineless little snake like Harry Reid makes me see that at that level, we're not as much better as I'd believed.  

Republicans might be ignorant, but at least they fight.


what a sad day (4.00 / 3)
Not much more I can say. This sucks. For all the reasons mentioned and more. It shows that Democrats have no spines.



The question is not what you are, we already determined that, we are now negotiating price.
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The Senate Dems piss on the American electorate who wanted change (4.00 / 1)
That's the real story about rewarding Lieberman for his treachery.

By rewarding Lieberman for his treachery, the Senate Dems are saying that they and only they can betray the Democratic base and the American People with impunity.  The US Senate is the American Aristocracy and we are the peasants that they can piss on.

I will not be voting for Sen. Dodd in 2010.  He can go f*ck with Lieberman.


Nor will I vote for him. Chris Dodd just put paid to his Senate career (4.00 / 1)


[ Parent ]
It's aggravating (4.00 / 1)
...because of all the BS from people like Harry Reid and Tom Carper about how upset they were with Joe Lieberman. The left is filled with grown ups. Just tell the truth. Lieberman acted like as ass but we're keeping him anyway because we don't want the first order of business to be retribution.

I can take that and live with it. I can't take being told losing EPW is a "stinging rebuke". I'm not a moron so don't treat me like one.

All I can say is Harry Reid better deliver some results down the line. The 'or else' isn't political. His competence is essential to our country getting it's shit together and at this point I have nothing to vouch for that competence other than blind faith.


Colin on Joe: coprophagic grin (0.00 / 0)
Give me Lee Atwater and Karl Rove and James Carville any day. Give me some stout-hearted unapologetic infighters and elbow-throwers. At least they never pretend to be anything else.  Far more insidious is Lieberman, with his coprophagic grin and his profession of good will. I never believed it, but a lot of people did.

The way you always knew that Joe Lieberman was the kind of guy who "rises above" partisan politics was that he always told you so.

The way you knew he wasn't was to watch him the rest of the time.



Good word to know (0.00 / 0)
..especially in these "trying times".

[ Parent ]
Colin McEnroe/Hartford Courant link. (0.00 / 0)
Props due but link not included.

Here ya go:

http://blogs.courant.com/colin...


Did the sanctimonious prick thank his enablers? (4.00 / 1)
    This sorry excuse for a human being actively campaigned against the change that millions of Americans voted for and billions around the world hoped would occur here in America, and he gets rewarded for it by getting to keep the committee that will help continue some of the worst policies ever concocted.

    I feel just as low now as I did when the Democrats capitulated to Bush time and time again over the past two years.  Dodd apparently doesn't give two shits and a giggle about his constituents thoughts and feelings about the topics of Katrina, torture, extreme rendition, and the endless police action/occupation of Iraq.

    Maybe it's about time for Dodd to get another sweet mortgage on a beachside condo in Florida and make way for somebody who actually gives a shit about the state and the nation at large.

    Bottom line - Dump Dodd!


 
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